this post was submitted on 11 Sep 2024
63 points (66.3% liked)
United States | News & Politics
7239 readers
235 users here now
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
And they will not be progressive.
And they will not make it into the party full time. Just see how vilified the Squad is.
Building up dual power by organizing in Communist Parties, yes. That's what I recommend. Unions are nice, but are ultimately band-aids, so while I would take pro-Union over anti-Union, it won't fix the problems with Capitalism. If Unions gain enough power, they will lose it, as is happening in the Nordics, unless they use that power to push for Revolution.
You're confused on a few counts.
-Fascism's popularity coincides with the source, decaying Capitalism.
-Material Conditions change regardless of power, nothing is static. Capitalist systems inevitably trend towards decay, which accelerates Fascism and Socialism.
-You don't stop fascism by voting it out, the conditions for it remain until Capitalism is overthrown.
Again, even if everyone voted for PSL this election, they cannot beat the network of checks and balances. Capitalist States are designed against change. The State must be smashed and replaced by a State-as-non-state, ie an organization of workers units in a syndicate, otherwise change is outright stopped by the other branches of government as has historically happened.
The groundwork is organizing outside the bounds of Capitalist Electoralism, Congress will never shift progressive, you're trying to rewrite history.
More magic and vibes, trying to beat the overhwhelming forces of Capital with hopes and dreams, rather than material efforts.
Tbf the squad is where regular Dems used to be. We have no progressives in office.
Correct, it's a factor of the system itself as designed. The base is reinforced by the superstructure, which reinforces the base. Capitalist parliamentarianism, especially in the US, is a deradicalization pit that silences radicals and pushes voices compatible with Empire to the top.
20% of House reps are in the Progressive Caucus, we're not starting at zero here.
The Squad exists. The bigger they get, the harder they are to bully. Seat by seat.
Which is it? Can progressive candidates get elected, or not?
How, pray tell, does one overthrow Capitalism? If you lack the support and coordination to elect progressives, where are you finding support and coordination for the revolution? I feel like a broken record, you keep ignoring this.
Again, the more pieces of those checks and balances you control, the looser their grip.
Magic and vibes.
If it's impossible for Congress to shift progressive, progressives don't deserve to win.
If democratizing your workplace and directly engaging your local elections to generate more viable progressive representatives aren't "material efforts", I don't recognize your use of the term.