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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't the state also be in the frame before the capitalist at the end?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm an ML but no, states are more fundamental than capitalism. There were states prior to capitalism and they will likely exist after capitalism, but capitalism cannot exist without a state as the special apparatus of class oppression.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As an ML though you could argue that states are downstream of the economic circumstances that force their development

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, you're probably right