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I tend to browse /All and by New on Lemmy. I went to respond on a thread on [email protected] to thank someone for a recipe that looked good, and found out I had been banned.

Odd, considering I hadn't posted to that sub at any point in the past. I checked the modlog to find that "Mod" had banned a bunch of people citing "Rule 5."

Their Rule 5 states: Bad-faith carnist rhetoric & anti-veganism are not allowed, as this is not a space to debate the merits of veganism. Anyone is welcome here, however, and so good-faith efforts to ask questions about veganism may be given their own weekly stickied post in the future (see current stickied discussion).

I (and hundreds of others) seemingly broke rule 5 of this community without ever posting there. What is going on?

And my apologies if this isn't the place for this, but I had no idea where else to post the question.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Did you know that vegans are hated on par with drug addicts? Perhaps. Did you know that people who consume a plant-based diet for their health or for the environment are hated much less than people who are vegan because of concerns about animal welfare? I think that's interesting. People feel judged by the mere existence of ethical vegans. And I think you are demonstrating how those feelings of being judged are expressed as defensiveness and "hatred" (though I know that language seems strong in this context).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Did you know that vegans are hated on par with drug addicts?

Oh take the back of your hand off your forehead. That's just fucking ridiculous. You know you're not purple, right? You don't glow in the dark? How the fuck could anyone know that you were a vegan other than you telling literally everyone you speak to that you are? It's like that fucking cross-fit and spin crowd. Literally no one would care if there weren't extremists out there harassing restauranteurs and butchers to try to bully them into not serving meat. If vegan extremists didn't lecture, harangue, and shame anyone who eats meat then no one would care. If you're hated it's because of your behaviour and how you treat people, not because you choose not to eat meat.

Perhaps. Did you know that people who consume a plant-based diet for their health or for the environment are hated much less than people who are vegan because of concerns about animal welfare?

No one cares what you eat or why. They only care how you act and how you treat other people. Have you tried being nicer to people?

I think that’s interesting. People feel judged by the mere existence of ethical vegans. And I think you are demonstrating how those feelings of being judged are expressed as defensiveness and “hatred” (though I know that language seems strong in this context).

It has nothing to do with ethical veganism and everything to do with harassing, intimidating, bullying, shaming, insulting, labeling, haranguing, etc. people to try to get your way.

It is how you act, not what you eat.