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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm assuming new people are less likely to complain about no raises and bad conditions.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

True, paired with Amazon moving many roles out of North America and into India.

With that said, a lot of people (like myself) joined Amazon when remote working was encouraged, only to then be told to go in 3 days a week. We lost loads of really great engineers that didn't have opportunities in their local area. We'll likely lose a LOT of people again, myself included, unless opportunities open elsewhere where I can transfer to a new area. Amazon are tricky, though, and they'll preempt this by reducing transfers or laying people off soon to ensure that those that cannot adhere to 5 days a week are considered to have "resigned voluntarily".

That's all to say that a lot of bad faith on Amazon's part will likely scare people away from joining. After the NYT article dropped almost a decade ago, Amazon got around it being hard to hire by having great transfer opportunities and high salaries. Neither of those exist now, and with all the anti-worker rhetoric and lies about internal AI performance "saving x hours on upgrades" I don't see Amazon ever getting top talent again. Amazon will slip into boomer tech soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Just to give an outsider perspective to anyone reading this. I live in the Seattle Metro, have worked for Microsoft, and now work at a unicorn. I have a list of skill and experience that any ops department would drool over. Amazon is is one of the companies I won't even apply to unless I'm desperate for a job (and even then I'm not planning to stay).

And I know I'm not the only one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Amazon moving many roles out of North America and into India.

This really happening? What sort of roles are they moving?