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The man verbally and sexually harassed the plaintiffs, a mother and her 16-year-old daughter, on a nine-hour flight from JFK Airport to Athens, Greece last year, according to the Tuesday filing, which accuses the airline of gross negligence.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

What I can't imagine it's how can people let that happen? Hot him, hit him hard. Stop him. Yes, I know, lawsuit yadayada, but there are situations that simply transcendent that. Was there nobody who was physically able to hurt him? And if not, like I tell my daughter, go to the guys over there and tell them, directly " you. Help me. That guy is assaulting me."

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

This sounds an awful lot like victim blaming, and you're advocating for what here? For random passengers to step in and beat this guy? If the airline attendants couldn't control him, why should passengers need to step in? Also from a legal standpoint, other passengers do not owe a duty of care to other passengers. Only the airline has a legal duty to protect their passengers. So these people should absolutely should sue the shit ouf of this airline, because they negligently allowed an unruly passenger to continue harrassing other passengers for an entire flight when they were the only ones with a legal obligation to act.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

from a legal standpoint

Who cares?? Be a decent person and stop sexual assault if you see it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The point is you shouldn't have to depend on the whims of random people being willing to help you, when you are paying money for the airline already to do this job for you. Part of the airline's literal job is to make sure you're safe while you're traveling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You shouldn't have to, but in this case they did. So you're advice is to just sit around and be sexually assaulted in the hopes that your trauma will be appeased by maybe winning a lawsuit against a mega-corps?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I’m pretty sure I didn’t say that but okay.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually you did say that no one is responsible except the airline.

And that's just nonsense.

Everyone who lets these things happen is responsible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Again, that's not what I said. The context was "from a legal standpoint", which is still accurate regardless of how you feel about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

When the "authorities" don't protect you, you have to protect yourself, and those in your community.

If you see sexual assault happening, and the authorities aren't helping, you are morally obligated to step in.

As the helpful passenger did, you should start your efforts non violently. Separate people until more authorities arrive. If someone's wellness is still at risk, act within your ability to support your community.

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