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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right, your contract is with the business. If you don't want a separate transaction for your server, then just be honest about it.

I do assume you are being honest, and telling your server at the beginning of the meal that you don't tip, right? Surely you're not waiting until after they've given you the customary service to withhold the customary payment, right? That would certainly be shameful indeed, and undercut your desire for them to receive thriving pay for honest work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No? Because a tip should never be expected. It can and is appreciated, but if it’s to be expected then I expect it to be included in the pricing of the meal, not as a separate “worker welfare” line item.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Then there's no harm on revealing that fact ahead of time. Just let them know not to expect a tip and enjoy your meal shame-free.

I can tell you, as I'm sure you know, that tipping is expected, even if it isn't legally enforced. If you truly believe in honest pay for honest work, than be honest about the fact that you will not be subsidizing their pay and relieve them of that conventional expectation. If you're being honest with yourself, you should have no problem with that, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again you’re expecting the patron to contort themselves through the social custom, instead of simply not participating in it. You seem to have this assumption that patrons expect and deserve a personal slave while dining. Maybe it’s an American and Canadian thing.

I hope you eventually find how freeing it is to not give a shit about what others say or think and just enjoy your meal, pay for it, and be on your merry way.