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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians. The anti-Israel propaganda is just being used to drive the Muslim and progressive vote away from Dems. I think it’s turning out to be successful.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

And other lies you tell yourself.

I’ve never met a Palestinian supporter that isn’t also a Ukrainian supporter.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The entirety of lemmy.ml would like a word.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I signed up to Lemmy without knowing much about instances, can't remember exactly why I picked lemmy.ml but it wasn't politics.

Is this really a generalisation people have? Should I move...?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

your admins also run lemmygrad. only you can decide if you should leave. personally, i like beehaw, slrpnk, dbzero, and blahaj. one important aspect to understand about the fediverse is that your instance is part of the identity you present to others

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

We live next to corn and soybeans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It has nothing to do with your identity. They all have different rules and different communities. Its more like which hotel chain you prefer to stay at. Its a preference for sure, but one that doesnt matter much.

People who judge based on instance are only outing themselves anyways. Churlish.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

it does say something though about what style of moderation you prefer and who you associate yourself with. that's why it's literally part of the identity you present. it's embedded in your username. it's like your fediverse last name.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I've been on Lemmy for a year and only now I'm learning about instances. I've read a few threads about lemmy.ml being "tankies" and that hexbear is the worst, but haven't had any negative interactions with either. Shit, I don't know the majority of the time which instance I'm interacting with.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Personally, I'm fine with seeing differing opinions. On the political side, they get a bit obsessed with dunking and all these in-group memes for my tastes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, see I realized they were either all bad faith actors, bots, or idiots ages ago and don't federate with them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

There are 20 Israel stories to every 1 Ukraine story on Lemmy.

Regardless of your opinion on the matter, this platform is being heavily astroturfed, and so are many other "liberal" platforms. It's actually way worse here than on Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Probably something to do with my country financing the underdog in one of these fights and the war criminals in the other.

Do yourself a favor block grad and ml it cleans up a lot of bad faith arguments.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's actually way worse here than on Reddit.

Because after r/ChapoTraphouse was kicked out from Reddit for inciting violence, the tankies moved to create lemmy.ml.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Of course there are, and I probably post 3 of the 20.

Other than the alt-right, you’re not going to find any support for Russia in the West.

Why would we need to raise awareness and keep posting about Ukraine to the same level as Palestine?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Bruh I literally got banned from .ml twice just for mentioning the fact that Russia shot down a civilian airliner in Ukraine. You are completely delusional if you don't see that a significant portion of these idiots are up Putin's ass.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

we're also numb to what's happening in ukraine. people got tired around when it hit the one year mark

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

By “people” I assume you don’t mean Ukrainians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

i mean westerners. it's been very frustrating because it means i have to find out what's going on by seeking firsthand perspectives because journalistic fervor is guided by what will sell ads. my bet is sometime around october seventh people start tuning out again because the novelty will have worn off. i'd love to be wrong, but every single outrage decays as we mistake novelty for news

[–] Cethin 15 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't met any in real life as far as I'm aware, but I've seen plenty on here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think they're talking about the people on TV talking about it, not the protestors themselves.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians.

I don't want the US government selling weapons to Russia to use against Ukrainians. I'm glad we aren't.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not yet, anyway. That's absolutely Trump's plan though. You want to help prevent that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

You want to quit calling me a trumper every time I speak out against genocide?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why can’t they? You accuse everyone you talk to of supporting genocide. Quit playing the victim of the exact same shit you do to everyone here.

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