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A $2.14-billion federal loan for an Ottawa-based satellite operator has Canadian politicians arguing about whether American billionaire Elon Musk poses a national security risk.

The fight involves internet connectivity in remote regions as Canada tries to live up to its promise to connect every Canadian household to high-speed internet by 2030.

A week ago, the Liberal government announced the loan to Telesat, which is launching a constellation of low Earth orbit satellites that will be able to connect the most remote areas of the country to broadband internet.

Conservative MP Michael Barrett objected to the price tag, asking Musk in a social media post how much it would cost to provide his Starlink to every Canadian household that does not have high-speed access.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem occurs in 2030 when Elon decides that only Russian settlers in the North can get satellite Internet because the Canadians might use it offensively in their war, against Russian settlers in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is an interesting scenario with the entire military might of the US sitting in Alaska at this moment literally there to prevent this exact thing from happening. I mean, fun to think about, but not happening any time soon. Especially by the year 2030.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's really just to illustrate why no one should be trusting Elon. He did that exact thing to Ukraine when they tried to counter attack early on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

This whole thing is infuriating. Musk is demonstrably a risk and this is just more β€œmore money for you” vote spraying and fuck the consequences.

I for one am happy to loan the tax dollars to a Canadian company.

Arctic sovereignty not your thing, Pierre?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Part of me wants to write off the Russian settlers comment as mindless FUD. Then I remember that Donald Trump was getting cozy with Putin while throwing tariffs at Canada, pulling out of NATO, and getting upset at the press that Trudeau had a better handshake or that Ivanka was checking him out a dinner parties.

You can never say 100% who your friends will be in the future.

I hope both Russia and Trump suffer horrible defeats this winter. Then I can go back to laughing at how stupid the settlers comment is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I hope so too. But while I was looking for an analogy with Ukraine I did go with something that's a non zero chance. First as you point out Trump has a history of giving Putin what he wants. While I'm sure the Canadian Army is very capable, I'm also sure the US is a large part of their defense plan. So that's why that matters. Then we have the fact that the Russians will not shut up about wanting to broadly settle the Arctic circle for oil. As pointed out, the US didn't just do a field exercise up there for giggles. They're showing the Russians there wouldn't be a default victory.

The settlers part is just a variation of their normal means of soft power expansion. They offer Russian passports and privileges to people in neighboring countries. No strings attached, all benefits. They do this to try and get pro Russian politicians elected and then they pull out all the stops to keep them in power. But the Arctic Circle and far north is very sparsely populated. So they don't need to convert the population. They just need to move in. The best case scenario for them is getting these areas to a referendum to secede from Greenland/Canada/US.

None of this is possible though without Trump being elected and a snap invasion of the Baltics or a "referendum" in Hungary. (Hungary and Moldova are part of why Putin wanted Ukraine on his side.) Putin needs to see how Trump reacts to a genuine Article 5 call before doing this. Because if Trump does remember he's the American president then it will be a very bad day for the Russians. And I do mean 24 hours.

So nonzero chance. But also the dumbest plausible timeline. It's far more likely Trump just gives Gazprom permission to obliterate the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska in exchange for a sign on a hotel in Moscow. (Not even ownership of the hotel, just putting his name on it)