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I have been using Logitech peripherals for years. Logitech gear always just worked.

Now they demand internet accounts to use the features of the keyboard and mouse that I purchased. WTF?

Not only that, have to use wide-open-to-snooping Chrome to adjust the settings. You cannot adjust/use your mouse and keyboard if you just use Firefox.

This only makes sense if they are planning (or are already) tracking my every move online to sell to advertisers or spooks.

What are the good options?

Also, if anybody sees how these changes could be benign, please let me know.

EDIT:

By popular demand:

The keyboard I bought that started this journey: MX Keys S

The key feature that first demanded cloud access: Swithing between computers, now it is requires it to adjust the receivers. I have both a Bolt and a Unifying receiver.

Mouse (actually a trackball) that now is requesting that I use a Chrome Browser to adjust it: M570

Software:
The Logi SetPoint Settings I open from Windows now requires you to log into your Logitech account to make changes to your Unifying or 2.4 ghz usb receiver. This link takes you to a screen that says Logi Web Connect. It does not work unless you use the latest version of Chrome, Edge, & Opera, but reccomends Chrome for the best experience.

Logitech + used to require this to enable options, but I don’t see it on my Windows computer anymore. It is still on my Mac, but upon opening it to confirm for this message, it seems to be announcing that it is now able to incorporate AI into everything I type. (ugggh)

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The way forward is to stop looking at those as "features of the keyboard and mouse that I purchased" and consider them as "unlockables" where you have to pay again by handing over your personal info. Then stop buying their stuff, because it's absurd to have to pay twice.

I prefer my keyboards and mice as dumb as possible. Preferably with cables, so I never have to worry about charging them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

stop looking at those as "features of the keyboard and mouse that I purchased"

Seriously.

Maybe I'm an old timer but my idea of extra features on a mouse or keyboard are simply more inputs: more mouse buttons or wheels, more keys on a keyboard (like media keys). At most that just requires additional hardware, but nothing my OS can't handle on its own.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (7 children)

What are some good dumb brands yall could recommend for keyboard, mouse, and other peripherals?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I’ve been using a Dell keyboard I got at goodwill for $4. It’s great.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I love Zowie mice because their shapes are incredible and they're built like tanks. One of mine is 15 years old and I still use it for work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Anker has a nice “vertical” mouse that has a wired variant. For keyboards I usually just check for an obscure Chinese brand

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Ducky Keyboards are pretty good (but ex)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I used to love Anker, but after the performance of their MagSafe batteries and recent recall, I’m hesitant to recommend them anymore 🤷

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Gamestop seems to be releasing competitive options right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The cherry stream has all the keys I need, presses feel good, and it just works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Logitech.

G305 for a “standard” mouse
MX Vertical for a vertical mouse
Both are wireless with a dedicated dongle and run off AA batteries. I hope that's acceptable.

G332 or G432 for a headset with decent sound and mic (that even works well over hearing aides)

Keyboard? I dunno, I went with a Das Keyboard Ultimate 4, I love my clickity clacky but it's not a cheap recommendation

They've all served me well for 6 or more years with the exception of the MX Vertical (2 years so far) and are all still spotless. None show any sign of wear or tear and do their job well.

EDIT I see OP had bad experiences specifically with this brand. I'm sorry to see that, disregard my opinions, OP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I picked up a wireless Cooler Master mouse on impulse for $20 from a bargain bin and it's .. Actually okay. The software doesn't even need to stay running. You open the util, change the settings, close it, and that's it. Downside is the cable.. While it is technically USBC, they've done that thing where the port is recessed in a specifically shaped divot that only their cable will fit.