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[–] [email protected] 86 points 3 days ago (5 children)

That will be believable if he doesn't win. The fact that it's cloee is absolutely nuts to an outsider.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It’s only close because of our broken electoral process that gives land more influence than citizens. He didn’t even win the popular vote for his first term.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

He’s got 47% of the popular vote last election. Over 74 million Americans voted for him. That’s 74 million too much.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not sure how that's supposed to ease the anxiety of Canadians.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe they should build a wall to keep the Americans out

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

hopefully they will make us pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

National polling has Kamala up by +6 at best. Seems like 44%+ of ~~Americans~~ those polled seem comfortable and supportive of Trump. The fact it is that close at a national level, with all Haitians eating cats rhetoric, still seems insane to an outsider.

Edit: Updated to appease those saying 44%+ of those polled who say they support Trump is not an accurate reflection of Americans at-large. For reference, Trump won 46.1% of the popular vote in 2016 and 46.8% of the popular vote in 2020.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hilary was polling at roughly the same numbers as close as two weeks before that election he won back in 2016, if I remember correctly. It was looking like a clean sweep for her, and it was anything but. So don't get comfortable yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yep, almost the exact same spread in the national polls, and still lost. Absolutely no comfort for me with numbers where they are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It's not 44 percent of Americans. It's 44 percent of the people poled. I can guarantee that number is skewed because a ton of left leaning people wouldn't bother wasting their time not getting paid to answer some pole. I know my friends and I are in that boat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

It’s 44% of all those people polled who are registered voters.

It seems insane to us “insiders” too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Don't pollsters account for this? There's a reason why polling still exists and is talked about, the final results do reflect reality to some degree.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

“poled” 😂😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The point is, anything more than negligible is fucking nuts!

Even if it's 44% of just idiot luddite conservatives, that's still 44% of idiot luddite conservatives too many!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Wait until you find out that 30-40% of Americans believe god magicked the universe into being as is less than 10k years ago and fossils are from noahs flood in which he saved 2 of every animal in a boat the size of texas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Most polls are performed by calling landlines. The majority of people with landlines are elderly or own businesses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

There is no way the pollsters don't know this and account for it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Close in swing states. Just means our election system is broken.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

They wouldn't be swing states if everyone could/did vote. Look at the typical voting percentage, it's very sad.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

currently ~52% unfavorable views of Trump, so he literally does not speak for most of us.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Wow, it’s only 52%? That’s so disheartening

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Trump is a criminal, a fascist, a literal traitor twice over (Jan 6 + loyalty to Putin over America), and fucking senile. Anything less than 99% unfavorable is ridiculous!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

It's absolutely nuts to a lot of insiders here too. I can't imagine a worse candidate, yet about 1/3 of the country seems to think that the choice in this election is a no-brainer, but in the exact opposite way that you would expect. The war on education led us here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Our system has a vital flaw. The electoral college. It was a necessity at one point given the technology of the time it was adopted, but now it is a relic and needs to go away.