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Toward the end of the debate, Democratic vice presidential candidate Gov. Tim Walz asked Vance to affirm that Trump lost the last election. “Did he lose the 2020 election?” Walz asked.

"Tim, I'm focused on the future," Vance replied, before pivoting to press Walz on censorship on social media.

"That is a damning non-answer," Walz said. "I'm pretty shocked by this. He lost the election. This is not a debate, it's not anything anywhere other than in Donald Trump's world."

Walz noted that the reason that former Vice President Mike Pence — who was the target of "hang Mike Pence" chants from pro-Trump rioters who invaded the Capitol in 2021 — wasn't on the debate stage is because he refused to overturn the election on Trump's behalf.


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[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I didn't watch the debate but it's a bit disheartening that every headline so far has "Vance" in it but not "Walz". The media always give the Republicans far more free publicity than the Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

Working like they intended, and it sucks.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

I did watch the debate and my immediate take away was that it was a cordial debate, which is sad that being cordial is now abnormal enough for that to be the first thing that stood out.

But with that being said, after thinking about it longer, I realized that the reason it was so cordial is because the questions asked were sane-washing almost all of Trump's positions. I don't see how the number one question would ever be anything other than:

"Senator Vance, your running mate has been convicted, by a jury of his peers, of 34 felonies. He is current facing indictments for stealing and concealing sensitive classified documents containing information vital to our national defense. He has also been indicted for conspiracy to defraud the United States, along with three additional charges, for his efforts to overthrow our democracy when he lost the 2020 election. He has also been charged with eight felonies in Georgia, including two counts of conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree; again, for his attempts at subverting our democracy to install himself as the unelected ruler of our country. He has publicity stated that he wants to be a dictator and throw his political opponents, as well as journalists and others who criticize him, in jail. The only reason your candidate is on the ballot this November is because the Supreme Court ruled that states do not have the ability to keep insurrectionists off the ballot - and they have also declared that various other crimes your candidate have committed cannot be prosecuted due to an alarming declaration that presidents are mostly above the law.

The question, Senator Vance, is why is your candidate qualified for anything other than wearing an orange jumpsuit in prison?"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

That’s the whole Republican strategy at this point. They realized that any publicity, no matter how crazy they have to be to get it, ultimately benefits them. No matter how well Walz performed, no matter how reasonable and objectively right he is, Vance gets the publicity through his nonstop lies.