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[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (13 children)

How is she a spoiler? She's the only major leftist candidate, who is she pulling from?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 23 hours ago (43 children)

In America you either one of the 2 main or a spoiler. Y'all really need ranked voting.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Alternative voting systems haven't proven to be even the slightest obstacle to capitalist rule. Japan and Australia have alternative voting systems, and they're still on the same far right path, still evict indigenous peoples, and still act as US military bases.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Why yes, let perfect be the enemy of good.

While yes, Australia's voting system still is not great (single member electorates), and inequality is still bad, and we're capitalist like the US, it's sure as hell no where near as bad here, and I would argue, partially due to our better elections (it's not even close).

We have pretty good worker protections, healthcare that's not ridiculously expensive (though, we're working on it...), and overall much better social programs.

I would be surprised if our voting system had nothing to do with that.

FPTP is trash, it's basically only gets bette for any other system (hyperbole, but not by much).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

It's not supposed to counter capitalism or any one political ideology. It's supposed to create more proportional representation. If everyone in a city is a conservative, then ranked voting will still skew conservative.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Supposed to but doesn't really. I'm Australian and our governments at both state and federal levels have been slowly eroding the ability for smaller parties and independents to even join the race by restricting funding and labelling it a win for electoral fairness.

The voting system doesn't matter when fascists get control, they won't let it go not matter what.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

In Poland we currently have 17 political parties and 42 independents on 460 seats in sejm. Yes, that's potentially 59 different political stances... but every single one is still neoliberal.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 19 hours ago (9 children)

Its impossible to have a government that represents the people, if capital stands above the political system.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You haven't heard of Jill Stein?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

Stein is more of a centrist, just anti-genocide.

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