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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That doesn't mean we need to cater to their business model at the technical level.

From what I have seen, it does... if you want to have a popular site that stays running well, and don't charge your users for access.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's a problem for site operators, not for browser developers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You might be right, but I don't think that's a problem they're going to solve all on their own, meanwhile the rest of users will suffer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, instead, they should cater to an industry that has long been a known vector for malware, abuse, and PII theft?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

that is the only current accepted alternative to paying for website access, yes

if you have better ideas though, we'd all love to hear them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Your stance appears to be roughly "we've tried nothing and are all out of ideas, so let's keep doing objectively harmful things".

The simplest idea is not to accept the premise that an objectively harmful business model that only brings value to a shrinking minority is acceptable. Maybe commercialism of every part of the web isn't something that humanity needs. As for paying for access, there are plenty of extant models that have never been attempted with any seriousness.

Then again, the whole Linux ecosystem is able to thrive without bending the knee to the ad industry. There's no reason that a web browser cannot also thrive without ads except for a lack of desire to do so.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Maybe if people/browser makers didn't bend over to this nonsense, the websites would figure it out. You know, the people who's problem that is (because yes, if you run a website and want to make money off it, that's your problem to fix not mine, and it's certainly not my job to cater to it).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It's a problem for users.