this post was submitted on 02 Aug 2023
87 points (97.8% liked)

Asklemmy

43970 readers
638 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Socialism and stability. I want to persue my passions without needing to devote half of my waking hours to a job (which all are incredibly mentally draining for me), and without fear of not having my basic needs met, and I want everyone else to have the same opportunity. A job should be supplimental if people choose to work, which many will, as they feel it gives them purpose.

A post-scarcity society and the death of corruption would be cool too.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah it's always strange to me that most people are working class yet most people are so allergic to the idea of socialism, thanks Russia

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

P r o p a g a n d a

Also the history of centralized control over industry hasn't worked out too well. I'm more of the Richard Wolff philosophy of democracy over the workplace, along with a very strong social safety net, including, but not limited to a UBI that is enough for people to comfortably live on.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If everyone got UBI, no one would eventually be able to live comfortably off it.

Edit: Also, "propaganda" but "the history of centralized control over industry hasn’t worked out too well" LOL

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huummm… thanks Russia? And not the CIA? Why would Russia be responsible for people hating socialism?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well whatever, the whole Soviet thing didn't really go very well

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It ended really badly, but how did it not go very well during it? Honest question here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It devolved into authoritarianism with Stalin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Authoritarianism doesn’t really mean much. And according to the US (through the CIA) itself, Stalin-era USSR was more democratic than appeared in western media.

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80-00810A006000360009-0.pdf

But in any case, even if that was the case, it wasn’t “authoritarian” after Stalin. Like y’know, most countries after WW2 (not just Italy and Germany btw. Or people forget Churchill and FDR, and the “war economies”? The internment camps, jailing of “political dissidents” etc. etc.).