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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 days ago (53 children)

Absolutely both are needed. I struggle to understand how people think a rural area with 5 minute drives between homes could be connected to a public transit network that is timely and not astronomically expensive.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Very few people ought to be living that way. I think it's fine for those people to use ICE cars. I also don't care very much if the tractors use fossil fuels.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's about five to one rural to urban now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In America, it's 5:1 urban to rural. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2017/08/rural-america.html

And the threshold for rural is 500 people per square mile. So the 5 minutes to neighbor is at a rare extreme. https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/acs/acsgeo-1.pdf

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You should know that the 2020 census redefines "urban" to increase the number of people/houses required (your article is from 2017). However, the US has urbanized more since 2010, so it's still 80.0% who live in urban areas compared to 80.7% in 2010. To clarify, the population requirement for what constitutes an urban area doubled from 2500 to 5000 people, and that figure only dropped 0.7%.

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