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    This post is stupid (sh.itjust.works)
    submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    "Here, switch to this software! Except it doesn't support half of the features of the old one and it never will. Why? Uhhhh idk security or something. What was that? Will we add a way to securely allow these things? Lol no"

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    What features are you talking about?

    People say this all the time but can never give any actual examples.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Global keyboard shortcuts, copy-paste, window position save/restore, screen recording, probably a few others I'm forgetting. I know some compositors implement these, but they aren't part of the Wayland standard so it's a bit hit-or-miss afaik.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/issues/624

    ^ global shortcuts was moved to portals (as it should be, portals are a much more sane way of handling this) but is in pretty much all compositors (except wlroots, but that's also being worked on and not in won'tfix)

    I don't know what you're talking about with copy-paste, that has worked for a millenia

    https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/264

    ^ window positioning (although still being worked on, definitely not in the category of won'tfix)

    https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/124

    ^ screencopy (screen recording)

    Literally none of these things are as described won'tfix for security reasons. Also, wayland is a core set of protocols, you're meant to use the ext block for things that aren't essential for basic functioning (such as screenshotting), that doesn't mean they don't work or aren't implemented properly, they're done separately because they AREN'T core to functioning, there are certain compositors that don't want the ability to take screenshots, for example.

    None of those were actually true, can you list an actual example?

    Seems like FUD to me.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Yeah I really don't get what people are talking about, I've been using wayland basically exclusively since 2022 and I haven't had any difficult to fix problems. For screensharing in the few things that don't support the portal I just use OBS' virtual webcam and everything else has just worked perfectly, or at least with way less issues than I ever had with X

    [–] starbrite 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Screensavers! I know they're technically pointless in the modern era but dammit they make me happy

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    that's not true either, nobody has bothered to port them but there's nothing stopping you, this is also not a closed wontfix for security reasons thing at all.

    all you'd need to do is use layer-shell, it really wouldn't be difficult at all, but nobody cares.

    edit: nvm it exists already https://sr.ht/~mstoeckl/wscreensaver/

    There really isn't even one thing is there?