this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2024
544 points (94.2% liked)
Fediverse memes
342 readers
94 users here now
Memes about the Fediverse
- Be respectful
- Post on topic
- No bigotry or hate speech
founded 1 month ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
https://lemmy.ca/post/28392935
I can't say I've seen them argue in good faith. Usually goes like that after the person mind argues doesn't agree.
that post seems okay to me? just badly phrased with an unnecessary level of twists that impede understanding
Making a meme insinuating that hexbear, whose mod team is majority trans, wants trans people not to vote, kill themselves, and bomb the west bank, and then going after Ada for not going along with it is definitely trolling.
i suppose i didn't have that context because my instance isn't federated with hexbear
Ada defended a fictional transphobic troll by confusing them for a real trans person twice. In a row. She's confused. She can't tell fiction from reality when she logs into Lemmy, and she makes moderation decisions based on her misunderstandings.
Take a step back and ask yourself why you're jumping through all these hoops to call the admin of an explicitly trans instance and implying the users of the biggest instance run by trans people transphobic.
Like you have to understand on some level that transphobes don't spend years creating and aggressively maintaining a safe space for trans people.
Ada has wonderful intentions. And she is incompetent, and Blahaj is not safe for trans people as a result. It looks safe for trans people, but when you look at the record of her actions as an admin, it falls apart. It's security theater. It's fake. She thinks it's really a safe space, and she's wrong. She's fooling herself and she's fooling a lot of trans people who are vulnerable because of her decisions. She deleted [email protected], a trans community, because of her confusions.
It wasn't a trans community though. You also chased off how many trans people and trans comms?
Soulism is inherently transgender as it deconstructs white supremacist reality including gender realism. When the reality of gender is destroyed, space opens up for an infinite diversity of subjective gender experience. Soulism is gender liberation with no limits. There is no soulist exclusionism. There is no soulist fakeclaiming. There is no soulist limit on what gender can be for the individual. And I chased off 0 trans users and 0 trans communities.
Right. You just started multiple witch hunts that lead to them leaving. Totally different
I don't know who you're talking about because that never happened.
Find that hard to believe. Or just done it so many times you don't realize.
Give you a hint, starts with https://lemmy.ca/post/24092742
I remember making that post, a lot of people agreed with me and also wanted the transphobic trolls gone. It's a shame Ada decided not to remove the community, and that they got a new mod team. Last I heard, posting was vibrant because the community trusted the new mods. I wish my warnings about their transphobia had been heeded.
If you honestly think that you are so much further gone mentally than anyone thought. Good luck with your delusions (especially calling a dead comm vibrant)
They got new mods. Kitten was handling the community, giving them what they asked for, appointing mods who were posting and keeping activity up. Is that no longer the case?
Yes they got new ones because you chased off the new one. Now it's dead with no posting
Sounds like the new mods weren't very good then. They expanded the mod team and the community still died?
I didn't chase anyone off of Lemmy, though. Link was a welcomed member of c/nonvoters and volunteered to take a hiatus. Kitten says so. What's the point in you ignoring Kitten when you claim to be an ally of that community?
Fundamentally I think that's what's at play here. The user base refused to trust Kitten and left. Your whole thing about loving the sub was a performance. You people were looking for an excuse to call the mods liars and leave.
And this is why everyone thinks you are a troll. Why would anyone stay at that point after those who actually had it going were forced out by those not in the comm.
Enjoy killing everything
I already told you, I didn't drive anybody out. LOC decided to leave for his mental health, and you decided to take away his agency and devalue the words of his friend by inventing a conspiracy theory to get mad about. Why would LOC want to come back after seeing how poorly you treated him and his friend? He probably thinks you're a jerk and that the community was toxic for him.
Wow. Amazing revisionism. Good luck with everything
That level of trolling is art.
They're always the victim. So fucking tired of it lol
my read of the situation is that there is some unstated person who, even though they are not literally named "obvious_troll", is similarly enough named that ada thought you were making an indirect attack on that person. again, i don't have the context to know who that would be but i am willing to believe you're all arguing at odds with each other.
(it is like if someone made a shitpost where the butt of the joke was [email protected])
No, there's no real person similar to Obvious_Troll. I made them up. Ada said in a private message that she didn't realise I made them up and she just assumed they were real. Then two months later, I said they didn't exist, and Ada got confused again. You're jumping through hoops to explain a person being completely mentally incompetent. This person you made up whose name is similar to Obvious_Troll, they don't exist. You're defending a fictional person you made up, just like Ada defended a fictional person I made up.
what i said is reasonable given, again, the limited context of what i know
I don't think it is. You wanted a rational explanation for Ada's behaviour. And I understand that. I understand wanting to think the best of other people. But Ada's behaviour is not rational, and she hasn't earned the trust she has from her communities. We need to stop rationalising her behaviour and thinking the best of her. And that's what the point of that post I made was, and that's what her subsequent comments in the thread demonstrate. A lot of people on Blahaj are making excuses for her when they shouldn't.
i havent ever thought about ada before this thread and can't evaluate whether she has uneaned trust. it seems like Blahaj is a cool place though (but again, my instance is not federated with a number of other common instances) and ada is the co-admin so i feel like i should have a reasonable amount of trust even if she may have failed in this, imo extremely nuanced, instance
Blahaj is a cool place despite Ada. Ada asked trans people to come, and a bunch of cool transes arrived. But Ada has consistently gotten in the way of that with bad takes, heavy handed moderation, and defending transphobes.
Their comments are the real give away. And they're Already flooding here with them
https://lemmy.ca/comment/12117354