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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I seriously wonder, do any of the folks with the "AR glasses to assist repair" thing ever actually repair anything, or do they get their ideas of how you repair stuff from computer games?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I assume it's the same dorks who say "ChatGPT is useful to summarize emails."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Isn't that one of the enterprise cases where it's actually been used?

Having schematics directly overlayed onto something I'm working on seems pretty helpful to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure it's actually being used, beyond C suite wanting something cool to happen and pretending it did happen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

have you ever done any kind of fine-detail repair on anything? electronics, something with tiny screws, fixing paint on a decal.. anything like that?

minority report floating holograms sure might be useful for this, “random-ass non specialised hardware shoved on your face” is decidedly more of a diceroll

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Well the OP talks about a fridge.

I think if anything it's even worse for tiny things with tiny screws.

What kind of floating hologram is there gonna be that's of any use, for something that has no schematic and the closest you have to a repair manual is some guy filming themselves taking apart some related product once?

It looks cool in a movie because it's a 20 second clip in which one connector gets plugged, and tens of person hours were spent on it by very talented people who know how to set up a scene that looks good and not just visually noisy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think he means repairs like washing machines, cars etc. It's all very well looking up videos or pics of how to repair stuff, but often the video isn't clear or fine quality enough

An overlaid graphic on whatever you were repairing would be fucking amazing for some of the stuff I do

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it would, but it's not clear how the same companies that make bad manuals now will make good AR overlays in the future

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

magic, obvies

(probably the same kind of magic that makes chatgpt work well)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

but often the video isn’t clear or fine quality enough

Wouldn't it be great if 100x the effort that didn't go into making the video clear or fine quality enough, instead didn't go into making relevant flying, see-through overlay decals?

Ultimately the reason it looks cool is that you're comparing a situation of little effort being put into repair related documentation, to some movie scenario where 20 person-hours were spent making a 20-second repair fragment whereby 1 step of a repair is done.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

yeah, tell me again how you're going to be fucking around the inside of a washing machine with a goddamn apple vision pro strapped to your face

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

@froztbyte @Mr_Blott new Pornhub category just dropped

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You realize it's a dev kit? The obvious end goal is to get tech to the point that you can wear them as glasses.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Ah yes, Glasshole SDK, I’ve heard of that before

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes?

Having shit clearly labeled would be incredibly helpful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Back when I was still on Reddit, I encountered a post saying that they are used in airplane maintenance. They might have specified that their experience was with the military or I might be misremembering that part.

I have no experience in this area and cannot vouch for the veracity of the claim, just wanted to let you know that I have seen something that supports your theory.

edit: Sentences make way more sense when you use the right word and not a completely incorrect one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I repair anything I can and I think the AR assistance sounds awesome. Especially when its for something I've never tackled before... In fact for me personally, it sounds like its by far the best use case of AR

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

getting normal manuals detailed enough to be useful is hard enough, forget about manuals compatible with AR set of the month

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. It goes something like "remember when you were fixing a washing machine and you didn't know what some part was and there was no good guide for fixing it, no schematic, no nothing? Wouldn't it be awesome if 100x of the work that wasn't put into making documentation was not put into making VR overlays?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Even assuming the manual is available, a video game HUD overlay will still only be of limited use when the thing I'm trying to fix is put together with biblically accurate tamper resistant screws that strip even if you manage to find the correct driver bit, plastic tabs you can spudge open exactly once before they snap off, unmeltable adhesives known to cause california in the state of Cancer, ribbon cables as thick as spider webs, firmware last updated two olympiads ago and whose latest version is bigger than the device's storage could ever fit anyway, a bootloader more tightly secured than any other software on the whole device, and components from a parallel universe made by companies that have never existed.

Also it will turn out that the AR repair manual is actually for a slightly different revision than you have and somehow everyone else on the internet has the more common variant.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

on paper it sounds great (as I’ve already alluded to in a previous comment). as always, the devil is in the details. and I’d bet cold hard money on this being oversold/overhyped bullshit, once again

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I think the fictional version sounds neat but I dread the actual version which will have ads floating around in my field of view.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe the AR could keep track of all the small fucking screws so that I don't lose them...