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[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't mean it needs to be the exact question, just something with equivalence. If someone talked about stacking boards and other things, the board could go on the bottom and then maybe someone else talked about stacking balls and books that way, so it used that because "eggs" were associated with "round". Follow up with the nail thing from another conversation.

It's definitely a form of intelligence, but I don't think it's anywhere close to 99.9% of human thought. I think it's missing entire dimensions of thought.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not saying it's 99.9% of human intelligence, I'm saying you're describing 99.9% of human thought.

This is what humans do, we hear about something thing and then we learn how to apply it to another. You even mention here "stacking balls" and then making the connection that eggs are also round and would need to be stacked in the same way to prevent rolling. This is reasoning, using what you've learned and applying it to a novel problem.

What you are describing as novel problems are really just doing the same thing at a completely different level. Like I play soccer, but no matter how much I trained, there is no way I would ever reach Messi's skill, because he was just born with special skill in that area, but still just human like the rest of us.

And remember I'm mostly just pointing to the "text predictor" claim. I'm not convinced it's not, and I think that appeared true for early models, but not so easy to apply to current models.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it is hard to say if the "glorified text predictor" is completely accurate, since the sheer size of the model allows for some pretty deep connections.

And, thinking about it since making that post, it's hard to say for sure that even Einstein or Newton were doing anything differently or were just the first/most famous to put those particular things together.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's a weird world and cool to think about. Thanks for the civil and interesting discussion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was a good talk. Funny watching the sentiment of the voters throughout, too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

IMO, one of the best QoL updates for Lemmy is to make the votes invisible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I suggest the personal firmware update of stopping caring about downvotes. Then they just become interesting data points.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I dont personally care about downvotes, but those data points sure do shake my faith in humanity sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If I get downvotes without any reply, I generally assume I've angered some trogdolytes, similar to getting replies full of vitriol.

Which has helped with my own urges to rage reply.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah for me it's less that I rage about getting downvoted, its just when I see a massive number of downvotes for posts that are simply pointing to the facts, or being logical and rational...and they get a massive number of downvotes because it contradicts the circlejerk or what people want to be true.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, though on the bright side, it's not nearly as bad here as Reddit was. Based on votes and replies, it seemed like a non-trivial amount of people on there didn't have much skill in the reading comprehension or persuasion department.