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A new poll suggests that Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein is drawing more voters from former President Donald Trump than from Vice President Kamala Harris.

According to a Noble Predictive Insights survey released last week, Harris holds a narrow lead over Trump in a hypothetical three-way race. With Stein on the ballot, Harris' lead expands, pointing to a potential spoiler effect similar to what many Democrats blamed Stein for doing to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

For Trump, the emergence of Stein as a potential spoiler may be a critical factor in battleground states, where even a small shift in votes could determine the outcome. For Harris, Stein's candidacy could paradoxically provide an unexpected advantage, drawing votes from Trump and narrowing his pathway to victory.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Doesn't make you putting words in their mouth any less dishonest. Or are you of a mind that people can say and do anything if they think the ends justify it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Subtext exists, logical results of decisions exist. If neither party are going to do the thing you suggest, and you don't want someone to vote third party, the only thing left is not voting.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or you acknowledge more than one issue exists and the way issues are handled isn't binary. One can be "better" on some issues or "not as worse" on others that also impact you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is no being better or worse at actively economically and militarily supporting an internationally recognized genocide.

And genocide is a single issue, but if anything is the single issue that should get you to drop support, it's that.

Sorry I'm not ever voting for genocide. There is not a single thing that can or ever will justify it. There is nothing the other side can do to make your participation in genocide less evil.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're ignoring the reality that someone who supports genocide is going to be president. I don't like it either but that's the reality. Now you can look at other issues and try to help other areas, it you can vote for someone who won't get elected and therefore won't be able to help anyone. And voting for someone who won't win, in the end, is the same as not voting, it has no impact on the outcome. Again, I hate our system but right now that's the reality. I would rather help those in can than have my morals be so rigid that I help no one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You help those by participating in mutual aid, hiding enemies of the state, and ensuring local community. That's the same regardless of who's in power, ever. That never changes.

But if you vote for genocide, you vote for genocide. You help no one.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I will help people, because there are people dying and suffering from other things. Neither myself or you will be able to stop The US from assisting in genocide. That's a hard fact. But what I can do is help those other people. What real impact are you having? If you vote for 3rd party your vote have 0 impact, you help no one, it literally does nothing.