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Why are so many Pro-Palestine (I am pro-Palestine and anti-genocide) Americans refusing to vote for Harris due to her stance on Israel? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

To push her to change her stance... you only own your vote. That's the only leverage. She is the reason they aren't voting for her.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

That logic should apply to Trump as well. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

I mean it does doesn't it? Trump supports can also threaten not to vote for him if he continues bad policies.

But we are talking about Harris supporters here. If Americans don't even have a real vote with real value then what would stop Harris or Trump policies that will eventually render everyone in Gaza dead? If you can't even speak to politicians with your own vote and if they don't even value your vote, then how are we going to achieve anything?

Harris is the one losing votes for her shitty policy. It's not the fault of the voter. It's the fault of the candidate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Correct! That's a great reason not to vote for either of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 minutes ago

Actually yes, and that may one day even break the deadlock American politicians put onto their failed two party system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Then again, pragmatically, voting for the lesser evil of the two could make a big difference when voting for another candidate or not at all could have zero effect. ☹️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 minutes ago

Pragmatically, Harris losing votes should make her understand the need to not support a genocide. But no, we have to lay the burden on everyone else but her.