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The internet has changed. Privacy left behind (www.youtube.com)

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As we rushed into the Web 2 era, privacy was left behind. There was a naive view that users could consent to something that was impossible to understand. The result was tracking and monitoring of every activity.

I chatted to Brendan Eich, the creator of JavaScript, Co-Founder of Brave, and the Co-founder of Mozilla. We talk about how the privacy landscape evolved on the internet, and the future of our technology-driven world.

00:00 The Serfs Have to Band Together! 00:51 Why Privacy Matters 04:30 Privacy Nihilism 06:29 The Rise of Extensions 11:48 Brave and Ads 15:06 Privacy is Now Marketable 16:31 Bridging the Divide Between Users 19:58 They Are Profiling You 21:50 Incentive for Government Control 23:30 Tech Optimism 24:48 Users Matter Most 28:57 Companies Can Make a Big Difference 31:47 UBlock Origin and Google 33:23 There is No End to Security 36:14 Braves Large Movement of Users 37:37 Decentralization Pays Off 38:00 Users Can Tilt Markets 38:55 What the Future Holds 39:39 Privacy Acceleration

We need more tools that make it possible to not only maintain privacy, but to still have a user-friendly experience at the same time. We, as users, need to fight back and demand it.

Brought to you by NBTV team members: Lee Rennie, Will Sandoval and Naomi Brockwell

Odysee link from the comments: https://odysee.com/@NaomiBrockwell:4/BRENDAN-EICH:9

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Both have ads baked in. Brave turns them off by default but tries to get you to turn them on and gives you fractions of a cent in crypto if you do. Mozilla has them on by default.

What ads does Firefox have?

Both have bundled things in their browser. Brave it was their VPN and affiliate link scandal. Mozilla was plugins like the Mr Robot plugin and changing people’s search engines to Bing without their consent when negotiating with Google.

The Mr. Robot plugin stopped being auto-installed a day after people complained about it back in 2017 (7 years ago), and I don't think this ever happened again, while Brave still does its thing to this day (to my knowledge), I haven't been able to find any info on that second point.

Both have made fringe political donations

Which fringe political donations has Mozilla made?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Firefox has ads by pocket on your homescreen and sponsored search results to name the two that come to my mind.

Brave did the affiliate link injection in 2020, but reversed and apologized shortly after. Similar to Mozilla's Mr robot thing, it seems to be a one off fuck up that they reversed and apologised for.

Mozilla has made donations to the Mack group who have expressed hatred towards people who are white. It's certainly less dangerous for a minority to spread hateful rhetoric to a majority, but rasicm is still racism, which is bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Firefox has ads by pocket on your homescreen and sponsored search results to name the two that come to my mind.

Forgot about the home screen sponsored stuff since it's so easy to disable it, as for sponsored search results, I've only been able to find stuff about sponsored search suggestions, minor detail. Mozilla suggest

Mozilla has made donations to the Mack group who have expressed hatred towards people who are white.

I've not been able to find much info on this, the only thing I found was a member's only blog post by luduke (who I don't trus), so I can't say much about this.

[–] dabster291 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What ads does Firefox use?

I think they're probably referring to adblocking.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No I mean things like sponsored by pocket and sponsored search results.

[–] dabster291 1 points 2 months ago

Ohh, yea those too

completely forgot firefox does that