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I have nothing to do with America and it's election but it wasn't Trump who made the joke.
Why twist it like that?
Probably because the joke was made by someone his campaign decided to put on stage. It seems like a pretty fair twist to me. Also his campaign may have apologized, but I don't see an issue with the blame going all the way up but I do see an issue if he doesn't give the apology for his campaign himself. It's weaseling.
They're trying to have it both ways, the rasicm and fear-mongering for the base, and just kidding, it was a joke for anyone who might be offended by it
You have to take it in the context of his continuous racism, dog whistling and degradation of immigrants, minorities and Puerto Rico in whole. The hurricane support he himself blundered while president? His continuous alienation and demonization of immigrants and minorities, legal or not? The reason it happened, and the reason the comedian’s mic wasn’t turned off and the crowed enjoyed it, was because he and his campaign enabled it and want it to continue.
You can’t separate Trump’s responsibility from this when every chance they get they double down on the racism.
He's done a lot of shit things, why manufacture one, is my point.
Keep the facts clean, don't distort and mislead. It doesn't seem like America needs more of that at the moment.
Trump is a mobster kingpin. Mob bosses don’t have to say the thing for them to have 1., approved of the message being said, and 2., having sent the message themselves.
You’re still looking at this neutrally and separated from the environment from where it’s coming from. It’s misleading to NOT recognize what’s actually happening here, and it absolutely is Trump (because the RNC and campaign is a reflection of him… he is its leader) pushing these agendas and attacks.
You are who you hang around is a true statement.
It's worrying to me that "Trump bad" so often enables the use of rhetoric that we wouldn't find acceptable in relation to other candidates. Also not from the US, and after the joke was made, I read headlines about this in half a dozen different places, and in every one of them the headline made it seem like Trump had out of nowhere said Puerto Rico was an island of trash. It seemingly made no sense but to be fair stuff he says often doesn't. Only at the end of the day when I got out of work and actually read one of the news pieces did I realize it hadn't actually been Trump saying it and it had been in the context of a shitty stand up moment.
The context doesn't make the joke any better, of course, but I find it weird that people are apparently so ok with news websites twisting information like this as long as it is against Trump.
Exactly, just having the actual facts no longer seem like something Americans want anymore. They seem to want things wrapped in an opinion.
Also look at how heavily down voted we are for just talking about this. Kinda crazy what's going on over there.