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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Too bad the server at least needs the player input data.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, people can still cheat with a camera and manipulating inputs. There will never be a way around that.

But that's entirely unchanged by adding malware, that, even if it could theoretically work, should be a literal crime with serious jail time attached. Client side validation is never security and cannot resemble security.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There are ways to detect and stop that, but they can and should happen on the server, not on the client.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Only if you're OK banning real people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There are lots of options such that you can tune your false positive/negative rate. 🤷‍♂️ Tons of ways you can structure this depending on your game's tech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No options that resemble legitimate or evidence based in any way.

If a computer has the exact same input and output tools as a human, you cannot possibly do better than guessing. It is a literal certainty that you will ban legitimate players doing nothing wrong for being too good if you try, and it's unconditionally not acceptable to do so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Client side anti-cheat faces similar issues, and there unlike your server you don't control the hardware.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

I'm not sure why you think I'm saying client side is better when I called it malware.

There is no approach that is theoretically capable of doing anything at all to impact a camera and automated inputs, and there is no way of trying to do so that is acceptable. It's simply a reality of online gaming.