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Great way to send a lot of business to dentists.
A Pynchon-level conspiracy. I suspect we’ll be seeing some more dentist-on-trampoline accidents.
That paper specifically concludes that despite all that, there is no reason to even look into whether fluoridation in drinking water might be a problem because there has clearly been no corollary deleterious effect. So, knowing what it would look like if it was a problem, was enough to know that it isn't even close enough to warrant checking how close it is. The highest reported extremes of exposure already didn't cause issue, so there is certainly no cause for concern at normal levels.
Basically, normal levels are so far below potential risky levels, that they aren't even concerned of accidental overexposure due to mistakes or accidents. They concluded they had literally zero concern...
So linking that paper isn't really supporting your opinion.
The paper does not recognize fluoride as a neurotoxin in its current application in Europe:
Not that I'm agreeing in an away about the paranoia about fluoridation, but there is no known safe level of lead. Lead concentration is regulated, but whatever the thresholds are, they aren't based on "safe" levels, just acceptable levels.
https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/lead-poison-and-children-no-amount-lead-safe
This is not true. To elaborate on what the other person who replied said... there is no safe level of lead in consumer products because lead accumulates in the body. Also, lots of consumer products still contain lead because there are loopholes. And the regulations any way aren't that stringent.
Those concerns are for unrealistically high doses though. The last sentence of the abstract you linked:
Calling concerns about the safety of fluoridated water “founded” is a bit of a stretch.
The issue is not whether fluoride is good or bad. Conservatives vilify medical experts as "woke" and it that as a reason to dismiss their advice.
I too can cherry pick an article to support my position. The number of cavities in children born in Calgary, Canada within the decade after they removed fluoride from their water was higher than nearby Edmonton who kept fluoride.
We can argue about who has more links to support their argument; or we can argue about whether politicians should govern based on the recommendations of experts, or trust that "they know best".
That isn't an article I cherry picked. It's literally actual research from those "experts" you pretend to worship.
The article you linked explicitly concludes:
You weren't supposed to read the study! 😅
.. And it literally actually says it's not a concern.
When you dismiss other scientific evidence like this, it makes it seem less like you are mindfully sharing research for open discussion, and more like you have a link to use as "ammunition" to defend the conclusion you've already reached (and won't be reasoned out of)
These people use research the same way a drunkard uses a lamppost - for support rather than illumination.
(Paraphrasing)
And didn't even fucking read the article they are attempting to use as ammunition, to boot, the article specifically denies the point they're trying to make
Claims to not have cherry picked anything yet follows up with the claim that scientists are fake experts and he doesn't listen to them.
You've exposed your ruse here, bud.
You're putting words in my mouth. I'm challenging people to actually read and engage with the content, instead of treating scientists like some higher power which must be deferred too, even in absence of understanding.
I'm not putting words in your mouth, you clearly don't think they're experts by your use if the snarky quotes around it and stated "you people worship" which obviously excludes yourself from that category.
If you're trying to challenge people, why aren't you replying to the multitude of comments pointing out that the study you linked doesn't say what you think it does?
Removed as misinformation. Additional rule violations will prompt a ban.
It's literally not misinformation though. The very first line quite clearly states that there have been multiple studies in recent times which characterize Fluoride as a neurotoxin. This sort of behaviour, deliberately lying about the content of scientific research, is exactly why people are losing faith in our systems.
Here is the abstract of the study you cited (Guth et al 2020):
Emphasis mine. Let me rephrase with a made up example:
Your study is not saying fluoride is a toxin. It's saying people have claimed it's a toxin, they looked into it, and that conclusion is bogus. The study that's routinely cited as claiming it's a toxin is this one. Here is Guth et al's analysis of that study:
The study you've cited does not say fluoride is a developmental neurotoxin. It very explicitly says it is not. Do not claim that it is.
Literally the first part which you bolded says quite plainly that there are, in fact, studies which suggest that it is. I'm not here to debate whether or not it actually is, but rather to attempt to show people that they should take a second look before dismissing concerns as entirely baseless, as though they have all of the answers. This is about the difference between treating science as a religion, compared to actually being capable of reading and understanding that there is no hard consensus on many issues.
Studies which are completely bogus, indefensible contortions of bad or nonexistent data. Those "studies" have been proven to be complete bullshit. The NTP found no evidence that fluoride exposure had adverse effects on adult cognition. As a scientist, I am telling you without a shadow of a doubt that the scientific research does not claim what you're saying it's claiming.
Removed for clearly misrepresenting health research findings.