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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When it was being discussed who would replace Biden before he dropped out, many black abd female voters were pissed it was even up for discussion considering Kamala was the vice president. They saw it as her job to be next in line after Biden.

If someone else was chosen all those votes would’ve been lost and we would still have lost.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Since we lost anyways, I would have preferred to have an actual primary process, even if it was a very abbreviated one at the convention. Destroying democracy to save democracy never made sense to me.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s easy to say that in hindsight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Many many many people were saying that the entire time. It has been clear to anyone not drinking the Biden kool aid that he hasn't been as lucid as he used to be, and many people said that if we had debates and Joe Biden won, at least we would have given others a voice. Anyone who supported Marianne Williamson, Dean Phillips, etc. especially was infuriated there were no debates, just a coronation. Many people were mad that certain states even canceled the democratic primaries. When Biden dropped out, it would have not been that strange for several prominent democrats to throw their hats in the ring - Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, etc. and at least have some sort of debate at the convention.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Many people were saying huh? Were they some of the best people? Why does that sound familiar?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you don't do anything but glue yourself to CNN, then yes, you wouldn't have heard about any complaints.

How about many articles in The Nation - here's one quoting Ezra Klein calling for a contested convention. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-convention-ezra-klein/

How about a Newsweek article talking about how even MTG is laughing at the democratic party: https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-do-democrats-plan-cancel-presidential-primary-debates-1796585

How about a really pissed off Dean Phillips in Politico re Florida canceling the primary? https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/30/florida-democrats-dean-phillips-election-00129403

Breaking Points has also done many shows on Dem party failures in the primaries. Here's an interview with Marianne Williamson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AfS7xnz_M4

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago

None of those people outnumber all of the black/female voters that wanted Kamala so their opinions result in a net loss of votes.