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Where should they be "taking" funding instead?
That's the Mozilla paradox right there. A company like theirs cannot survive on the market without breaking their own ideals.
Mozilla should approach proton to try and get accuired. I would love to see Firefox and Thunderbird become part of the proton landscape.
Well all it'll do is make Proton lose more money.
They are not positive ?
I think they are but Mozilla is not profitable and will be an expense source. Idk if it'll make Proton negative but it definitely won't improve their business.
mozilla is not profitable because of how much they pay their CEO.
its the same situation as reddit.
The CEO is like slightly more than 1% of their annual revenue.
Everyone seems to have missed or ignored the pun. 😄 I liked it.
Thanks for pointing it out 😂
ideally donations like lots of other FOSS projects
Serious question, is there actually a FOSS project out there at the scale of something like Firefox that survives on only donations?
VLC I would say
VLC also has a company behind it: https://videolabs.io/
Not the same scale but Signal has a rather new approach for a messaging client. Completely free and funded by user donations - at least that's the direction they're trying to head as their initial seed funding starts running low. I've doubled my donations for Signal because I'd like to help prove that its a working model and I encourage everyone who uses it to donate, even if it's just once. I'd love to see Firefox head in that direction where funding goes directly to the browser's development. If I donate to Firefox today it might go to one of their dozen or so other pet projects that are unrelated to the browser. I think their side projects are great and glad they were able to do them while they had the cash, but funding is clearly drying up and they need a whole restructure to keep the browser alive.
You do realise they're trying to become the crypto WeChat? Shit app with horrible management.
Any evidence to support this claim?
Because I'm aware Signal introduced a beta crypto wallet 7 years ago, which was originally only available in select countries, and has had minimal resources allocated to its continued development since. They make zero mention of crypto/payment on their website, and best of all, the crypto wallet isn't even enabled by default.
And here you expose your personal emotional trauma by lashing at at the most inconsequential "nothing": the development of a privacy preserving crypto wallet, "feature complete" half a decade ago, and disabled by default in a privacy preserving messenger.
Signal is the best free, open source, E2EE messenger that doesn't leak metadata and has decent UX. Best of all, its completely free to use. Simplex is a good contender, but the UX is still lacking.
No because people choose diss cause it’s free. I mean they might say other things but then the vast majority do not donate to anything. People are cheap and that’s why we are where we are with all the ads.
Feels kind of weird, if thats the case how did Linux come as far as it is today?
Corporate support of development, and I’m not just talking about Redhat and SUSE. Hell, Microsoft is a major contributor to the kernel.
I don't know. Crowdfunding? How does Thunderbird keep it self afloat? Maybe better integration of the community as in more say in what will be developed depending on how much money you donate etc.
That's exactly the worst way to prioritize. Money should not be influence. That always works out worse in every example in the history of everything.
But thats exactly how they work currently? Google is the default search engine in firefox.
So it's the default. Big deal. You can change that when you start the app first time. If that gets them funding that's not a horrible price to pay. Also, that's not money getting influence exactly, that's a transaction. "We will pay $x to get this status." Not the same at all as "I donated lots of money therefore I get to say how you develop the software."
I haven't seen the contract between google and firefox.
Maybe "how you develop the software" is a bit far-fetched, I was more thinking about decide where to put efforts into e.g.: continue developing Firefox's core mechanic of being a privacy oriented webbrowser instead of... whatever they are doing with the funding they get.
Yeah basically what I meant.