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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or discourse like that could be why young men are choosing the right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're so wrong to do so in such a vindictive way.

... but that doesn't mean they're not doing it. People are petty, including men.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm honestly not sure it's even vindictive. Maybe in some cases, it's a big complicated issue.

We get such different news in the age of algorithms, they may not even see it as vindictive. I think it's easy to pull back from a group that paints your identity as a villain, and I think that's likely some of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

True. The stereotype is jilted incels but that's probably not always the case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They are choosing it because Theo Von / Shane Gillis / Tony Hinchcilff / Dana White / Joe Rogan / UFC / Russian propaganda / random MAGA streamers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

All of whom thrive on stuff like man vs bear discourse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I think it's too complex to attribute to one thing, I think you're right that the alt right social media pipeline is real and an issue.

I'm just saying I understand not identifying with a group who trash an identity a person belongs to. They just disengage. Nobody likes being put into a box that paints them as a villain.

Just my opinion of course, the left (as a social group) can examine the current discourse and try to adjust, maybe like framing it as a class struggle or a liberty struggle, or continue being divisive and risk being overridden.

[–] JasonDJ 1 points 3 days ago

Trump learned how to win friends and influence people from Carnegie. People just want to feel heard, doesn't matter what you say back to them. It's essentially slight-of-hand, but for feelings and emotions.

All those other guys know a cashcow when they see one.