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Or discourse like that could be why young men are choosing the right.
They're so wrong to do so in such a vindictive way.
... but that doesn't mean they're not doing it. People are petty, including men.
I'm honestly not sure it's even vindictive. Maybe in some cases, it's a big complicated issue.
We get such different news in the age of algorithms, they may not even see it as vindictive. I think it's easy to pull back from a group that paints your identity as a villain, and I think that's likely some of it.
True. The stereotype is jilted incels but that's probably not always the case.
They are choosing it because Theo Von / Shane Gillis / Tony Hinchcilff / Dana White / Joe Rogan / UFC / Russian propaganda / random MAGA streamers.
All of whom thrive on stuff like man vs bear discourse
I think it's too complex to attribute to one thing, I think you're right that the alt right social media pipeline is real and an issue.
I'm just saying I understand not identifying with a group who trash an identity a person belongs to. They just disengage. Nobody likes being put into a box that paints them as a villain.
Just my opinion of course, the left (as a social group) can examine the current discourse and try to adjust, maybe like framing it as a class struggle or a liberty struggle, or continue being divisive and risk being overridden.
Trump learned how to win friends and influence people from Carnegie. People just want to feel heard, doesn't matter what you say back to them. It's essentially slight-of-hand, but for feelings and emotions.
All those other guys know a cashcow when they see one.