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[–] Dempf 66 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I thought Republicans were the anti-tax party?

[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People think that foreign countries pay the tariffs and I'm not sure trump doesn't think that as well.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, that food magically appears in grocery stores.

Gawd or something

waves hands

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Not to forget these crazy machines that'll give you free money if you smash in one of those weird plastic thingys from your purse. Absolutely bonkers!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Even if they did, they would still be passing that cost down to us.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

And even if they did, do they think they are just going to swallow those fees?

[–] IamSparticles 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think the "logic" is that if things are too expensive to import then companies will start manufacturing them domestically and create jobs. But that almost never works out. An economist could probably explain why better than I can.

I do know that the better approach is to support those industries here. That's why we recently dumped a bunch of money into the CHIPS and Science act.

[–] Dempf 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am actually in favor of tariffs in a couple of limited situations:

  1. Foreign goods are cheap due to non-existent labor laws

  2. Foreign goods are cheap, but produce more emissions than domestic manufacturing

#2 is also called a carbon border adjustment mechanism, or CBAM, and the EU voted to implement one last year that goes into effect in 2026. The USA desperately needs one IMHO. I'm involved in a nonprofit that's been lobbying Congress to implement our own CBAM.

It's silly though to think that a tariff is anything but a tax. It's not any different than any other way that we use our tax laws to try to regulate "pure" capitalism by encouraging certain behavior and discouraging other behavior.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

It's not taxes, it's tariffs! Duh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

It's okay if the taxes are only being paid by foreign companies. They.... they are, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Much like the grifters that they are, the Republican party does not have any convictions.