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I think I don't get it. What does
Your body - your choice
refer to?Is this like
blablabla i don't care about queer people, do what you want but don't come near me
or what am I missing here?The phrase is "your body, our choice" and its a rape threat
oh, OOOOHH, oh no, okay I completely missed that.
Wow are people actually saying that? That's such an awful saying.
Mostly literal, open Nazis, like Nick Fuentes.
Not gonna post it here, but since he's been doxxed, you're free to go tell him what you think of him to his face.
Sure, if you want Nazis with the President-Elect's ear to know who you are
Maybe communicate in a code of fire accelerants and sparks?
That's Republicans! ™️
It says
Your body our choice
, a play on the line "my body, my choice" trotted out by fascist yanks to celebrate stripping women of their autonomy.Just the fact that this whole women aren't people argument is even around still is such a joke to me.
I'm lucky enough to live somewhere where that isn't questioned ever, but damn
"Your body - your choice" refers to the basic human right that you're your own master and no one else can own/control you.
It's especially used in the discussion about whether abortion should be legal or not, where it refers to the fact that the fetus in a pregnant person is indeed part of that person, and they are allowed to do what they want with their own body (e.g. abortion).
The post mentions the opposite, "your body, our choice" which refers to the anti-abortion movement where people, often due to religious reasons, think they should have control over a pregnant person's body, rather than the pregnant person themself.
God will smite you if you kill his children I guess.
The fact that religion has such an impact on society still is crazy. Having a belief is nice and can be comforting, but putting restrictions on others which makes their life objectively worse, damn that's shiddy
And if you combine that with the love for the 2nd amendment, and indifference to school shootings it gets even crazier.
If they were consistent pro life they would:
But they ended up with supply side jesus instead...
The problem is the same as the problem everywhere - big is bad
Organizations with too much power fuck up everything. I love the Bible - I've taken more from that book than any other. The old testament was a story of how my people fuck up constantly, but someone wise and in harmony with existence shows up and they listen. Then the heroes wander off into the wilderness, or they get a big head and become the seed of the next fuck up
Jesus is my biggest role model out of very few, because he sacrificed himself to die a hero before he could taint his message, very deliberately and to great effect. There's nothing to criticize, because he learned the lesson. He was deliberate and effective... Nothing human and fallible was left, because for three years he lived his message and taught the third path, and then he either died or faked his death and fucked off to Asia
Jesus was brilliant - as a bastard son of a craftsman he became an existential threat to Rome. He taught the third path, and his message was so effective they had to kill him, massacre his followers, and even then the empire only survived because Constantine slapped his name on a rebrand of the Roman religion. The legions of Rome were spreading his message, because it resonates with everyone
He showed violence once - when people abused religion for profit. He still harmed no one, accepted everyone. When did he say abortion was wrong? I seem to remember a lot of forgiveness outside of that one incident. Across race, across profession, across physical state
Almost like it was truly universal love.
W.W.J.D. Probably accept everyone regardless of unsavory circumstance and reject money, like he did when he lived
Religion is the problem, because the difference between religion and spirituality is only scale
Read the Bible - I did it when I was 7 and had diarrhea. It's worth reading. It's not as long as it seems. I'm shocked at how few people read it cover to cover - I assumed it was normal for decades. At least know the enemy, right? Or better yet, take the wisdom within and build up a tolerance to the rest when it's misquoted at you
Pretty sure it has nothing to do with a “pregnant person” and is just a straight-up open rape threat.
I hate american christian fundamentalist like any sane person, but you have to admit that the fetus is not entirely part of woman's body - it's on its way to become its own "thing"... And the longer it grows, more "own" it is. With different DNA etc. While I vehemently refuse anyone dictating these kind of things to anyone else - thaťs just forcing their will upon someone, in one of the most important questions - I found this "my body" view the weakest part of the defense.
You know my body, my choice?
Yeah. This is a crowing threat in the face of a second trump presidency