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I'm aware of the url mishap with the dolls and vaguely aware of the poster controversy but I've also seen people online call it a PR disaster and I'm entirely out of the loop on that

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

a fan edited the official movie poster that erased half of the star's face and added lipstick and tweaked a bunch of stuff,, the star got really upset and tweeted that the poster was offensive and her erasure hurt her and she wanted people to know that it hurt her.

so a bunch of people attacked her.

she wrote more than necessary, maybe, but she didn't attack the fan or ask the fan to take the poster down or anything like that, she was just letting people know that she felt hurt, and she was rabidly attacked for expressing herself.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I can understand where she's coming from, but it isn't about her. It wasn't edited to eliminate her. It was edited to reflect the original 2003 poster, which it nailed.

https://www.today.com/popculture/cynthia-erivo-wicked-poster-controversy-rcna175772

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Agree with this - the fan just trying to make the movie poster imitate the older poster.

But I can see where the actress is coming from as well - these feelings are almost certainly part of the reason why the original movie poster from the studio decided to show the full faces of the actresses instead of imitating the 2003 poster in a more direct homage. It's a tricky balance, but at the same time it's hard to blame the fan for wanting to celebrate Wicked in art.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

What gets me is that the reason they changed was to "communicate", but her expression is essentially blank. What's being communicated? If anything it's far less expressive than the wry knowing smile.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 days ago

I thought the fan edited poster looked terrible myself, but I'm apparently in the minority there and it's a fan at it, so who cares.

" it isn't about her"

it is literally about erasing and replacing her image with a different image.

that's fine if you or other people like the new image better, and it's fine for Cynthia to express her upset at her image being erased and replaced.

both of your feelings are valid, especially since neither of you are making demands of anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Here's an opinionated article on the subject that includes a copy of the modified image contrasting it to the original (and also the poster for the musical), https://worthitorwoke.com/wicked-star-cynthia-erivos-reaction-to-a-fan-made-poster-is-everything-wrong-with-celebrity-entitlement/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What the fuck is wrong with that article author? The blanket admonishment of celebrities hides the lack of critical thinking or analysis the author was required to do for the story. Such lazy "news" is just a polarization vector to hate on celebrities and is not worth the time or energy to read.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The site has a clear mission of "fighting the woke." It's main purpose is to rank movies and games on a scale from "Woke👹" to "Based😊" so that users don't have to be triggered by wokeism. So yeah, I wouldn't expect high quality reporting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Do I need adblock for tinfoil hats now?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Don't need adblock if you block yourself from theese shitty sites in the first place

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

It’s never a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Did you expect a decent take on a site called "Worth it or Woke"?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The article really did the line up of the three posters so well though ...

But I am certainly troubled by those attacking the actress online for having these feelings. That's not right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I'm similarly troubled and am observing an ever growing inclination towards this kind of behavior, like also everywhere irl.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

yep, that sort of manipulative dog-whistling is the sanitized version of what I've seen online.

they make it all cynthia's fault, and blame her for being too "woke" and "virtue-signaling".

she's a public figure, and so she apparently must accept any and all criticism and is not allowed to share her own feelings.

you can read more honestly offensive anf virulent versions of those criticisms floating around on social media.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That doesn't sound like the movie studio dropping the ball or anything. If it was a fan edited poster, that's completely out of their hands.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The problem was not the fan, it was how the actress reacted.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago

the row had nothing to do with the movie studio, or the movie, really.

a fan edited the poster, the star said her feelings were hurt in too many words and too dramatic a fashion, and the internet en masse told her to shut the fuck up and she was so selfish for sharing her feelings, she should stop attacking people (she didn't) and she should silently accept whatever was coming to her since she was a public figure (she shouldn't) but as a public figure she wasn't allowed to express herself(she is).