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This happened in Toronto on October 24th

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I will be a dick: this is one of those imbeciles teck-bro takes, always comming with excuses for big tech "but actualy.. "

If you design a door handle and people cannot open it: your design is shit. Point.

This was stupid when apple did it with the 'you're holding the phone wrong, idiot', it is criminal when it is done on a security feature.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

That's literally what I said

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It is because people don't get a full walk through of how to unlatch it later on..they might on delivery day but at that point people are excited about a new car and not paying attention. And then because they never use it, they forget it exists

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Just watch a video of how fast car fires spread into the cabin, and then ask yourself how often you asked someone how to leave a car in case of emergency before you entered.

Add panic and the fact that you have to remove a panel or look under the floor mat to pull a string away from you, and you maybe will understand how this is just bad design.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

if you make something with a door and the door needs a manual, your design is shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Oh I know it is not good. Even my Honda Fit has a messed up lock system, its almost like a sideways roller switch without a truly discernable lock/unlock position so in tu dark you can't tell if it is rolled forward or not. Messes us up when we are in the passenger seat and son:t have the powelock handy

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Emergency exit mechanisms should be designed in such a way that one CAN forget about it or never even know about it, then have it obvious, readily available, and usable, all for/by the dumbest motherfucker in existence, in an emergency situation.

The most common analogous situation is emergency exit door signage. Most companies do an annual fire drill, which isn't enough to really learn anything. Emergency exit signs are easy to interpret and anyone can understand what they mean and use them to get to safety, regardless of prior experience.

Vehicle doors should be the same. Tesla front doors tend to be easy and obvious to open in an emergency (I own one and front seat passengers frequently use the emergency latch instead of the door button), but the rear doors (for the people seated closest to the damn battery nonetheless) have ridiculously difficult emergency opening procedures.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree. Some people aren't level headed in a panic scenario. They need glow in the dark arrows like the markings on jet planes pointing to the canopy release

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Some? I'd say this applies to almost everyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I may be biased as a person that has been in a lot of scenarios where I remain levelheaded. Paramedics suggested I become one after seeing my calmness dealing with an accident scenario.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So it's not an intuitive design. A major error by itself. Since in a panic a passenger who does not know the secret is stranded inside.

My sister has a tesla, I have ridden in it, and I have no clue how to open the door without power.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I get it, my friend has ModelS. He showed me the mechanical release, when I asked about loss of power. It is not intuitive.