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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let's hope the next 4 years are tough on the felon, he may not even make it to 2028 🤞🏼

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm not convinced Vance or Johnson is any better than the orange baffoon .

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They would be worse. A dumb Nazi is preferable to a smart Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Upside is the cult of personality is attached to Trump, and no one else has been able to pull it off him. Trump is only effective because somehow, for some insane reason, he, personally, has a lot of devoted followers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The cult is attached to Trump, yes. But when he dies his followers won't suddenly wake up from their madness and flock behind a "normal candidate".

They will still go for the crazy ones who act and talk the way Trump did. There may not be a second Trump, but they are lost nevertheless.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yep. When a dictator dies, it doesn't necessarily lead to democracy and prosperity because the system is broken, and the next person simply assumes the absolute power.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah but they probably wouldn't even get a second term lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Will the MAGAs back Vance without Trump?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Some will, some won't. Cults of personality don't tend to fare well without their personality, and Vance has all the charisma of a used tissue, so it'll come down to how skillfully he can navigate things.

Remember, a LOT of right-wing Christians think Trump is either a prophet, an agent of God, or (in some cases) literally Christ Himself. That's an awful hard act to follow when your prophet doesn't get taken up to heaven in a fiery chariot, or your Messiah doesn't rise again after 3 days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It they luck out the removal of the fda might lead to mass ergot poisoning then. Actually, fuck, a cynical government could absolutely just dose large chunks of the population with entheogens, the cia has pulled shit like that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was talking about this with a friend not long ago and he floated the idea that Tucker Carlson could maybe replace Trump. He does have a fan following. The idea worried me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I think some would likely float off to other charismatics like Flynn, RFK, Carlson, and various other grifters like Rogan. I can't see the movement uniting behind another figure that I know of right now - Trump WAS the syncretic glue, and I don't see anyone else being able to be all things to all men.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

He doesn't have "D" next to his name and has shown no indication of rationality, so yes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Will they get a choice of it all goes really really haywire? I mean their faces are gonna get eaten regardless.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's the question. Let's say Trump makes himself dictator. Who's going to inherit the title when Trump eventually dies from old age or from falling out of a Russian window?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Ivanka of course

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It won't matter

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Beware what you wish for.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

he may not even make it to 2028 🤞🏼

He got over 50% of the votes and over a third of the country didn't even bother to vote at all. I'm full accelerationist at this point and hoping the country doesn't make it to 2028.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tech support: Have you tried turning it off and back on?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It's amazing how often that is the correct way to fix things.