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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The whole Ukraine crisis started with the offer of an EU accession agreement to Ukraine in 2014

I think the crisis technically started with a military invasion. If not that, then we could go back and forth on this to the founding of NATO and before.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Them saying that is like someone who beat their wife to death saying "it all began with her having glanced at a man who walked past."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I think on this occasion I'll defer to how a secretary general of NATO chooses to phrase it