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First, what is your point?
Second, does the sun fit any of the following definitions:
headcommandThird, if it doesn't fit any of the above definitions, can you explain which definition of head that it does, what that definition is, and why it's relevant?
My point is you're torturing a non-scientific argument to try to pass it off as scientific. No one benefits my pretending achieve is something it isn't. You're trying to use it to determine reality, when it's just a tool to develop consistent models. It does not work when considering a phenomenon outside of testable hypotheses.
Again, the sun could be the head, the sensory and processing unit, of an unknown nuclear being. We have no way to test this, so it cannot be scientifically "disproved". That does not dictate reality. You're trying to apply scientific reasoning to phenomena outside its preview.
Your claim doesn't have anything to do with my original point other than semantic sports over whether the sun is a head. Philosophy and theology also don't determine reality. We can only discover it through these means, the same way we can discover reality through science. The simple fact is that some philosophical, theological, and scientific hypotheses are closer to reality than others. The only way to dispute that would be to argue there is no objective truth, which is a self-defeating claim.
Again, OP is making a meaningless argument.
There is no objective truth. You wanting to project objective truth does not make it more real. Reality is a mystery, and using tools incorrectly to fool yourself into objective truth is a miscarriage of science.
You're trying to apply materialism to allegory. Evaluating religion this way is a meaningless argument.
Is the statement that there is no objective truth objectively true? If so, there is some objective truth, and the statement is false. Like I said, it's a self-defeating claim.
We solved this a century ago with set theory.
What does set theory have to do with absolute truth? And if there is no absolute truth, how can any aspect of set theory be valid?
Might wanna brush up on your epistemology. These are middle school tier arguments.
It's a simple question. Can you explain? I'm not gonna go and substantiate your argument for you.
I can, but I won't. This is no longer an entertaining use of my time. I'm not going to explain the implications of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem to someone with such a shaky grasp of epistemology. Pearls before swine.
It's odd that you won't explain your epistemology to someone, but you will claim moral/intellectual superiority in not explaining an actually important point after debating them on the hypothetical sentience of the sun for over a day. You can throw all the names of theorems you want at a conversation. but the simple fact is that "there is no absolute truth" is a self-contradictory statement. Any philosophy you build on such a fragile foundation is a non-starter.
Which is precisely why I'm not going to explain epistemology to someone who has repeatedly demonstrated poor logical methodology.
I can't control what you believe at the end of the day, but I will encourage you not to believe in claims that are fundamental logical contradictions. You deserve better than that from yourself. In any case, have a good rest of the week.