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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

What is the acceptable level of tragedy to impart upon a non-consenting progeny? I vote for zero

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You'd have to be immortal, first. Most kids are gonna live to see their own parents pass.

Tragedy is a part of life.

It's easily avoidable tragedy, unaddressed by those who could do something about it, that's the problem.

Even worse, there's potentially extinction level tragedy happening right now, going unaddressed by those who can do something about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Most kids though? I'm not going to go looking for stats but let's just say 95% of children are outliving their parents right now. Awkward sentence there. I mean parents who are dying today, 95% of them didn't outlive their children. I hope that makes sense. Yes that's not how statistics work, I'm trying to make a point.

What's an acceptable level to drop to before we say fuck this we're done having kids? I knew I didn't want kids when I was a kid, but I'm an outlier.

Let's say 85% is the number for kids born today. I believe that's already unacceptable. It's so unnatural.

I think the number is worse than that. The mass climate migration/water wars are going to really get moving in the 2040s if not earlier. I don't want to live through that. I definitely don't want a child to live through that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Historically we've tolerated MUCH higher rates of infant and child mortality than we do today. People will keep having kids even if most of them will die.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 24 minutes ago

People will keep having kids even if most of them will die

"even if"? Biologically, knowing that most of your offspring are going to die is a reason to have as many kids as possible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Agreed. It's just now we have more options. At least we did before the Christian Nationalist Supreme Court made abortion illegal in half of the US. Even with this there are still more options and more education than in the distant past.