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Hi, someone posted this on another server. I'd like to request we defederate with rammy.site and exploding-heads.com as well. I scrolled through some of their posts and comments and it's full of ridiculous anti-left propaganda, for example a post where some liberal Florida family fleeing the state when some child protection laws got passed, implying liberals abuse children and won't live in a state that doesn't allow them to. Just take a look for yourself.

" Admins of Lemmy.ml please consider defederating from rammy.site it has been taken over by right wing malicious actors from exploding-heads.com and the admin is nowhere to be found.

It is imperative that you take action as soon as possible the users on rammy are using the site to spread their messages to a further audience, we must nip this in the bud. If you don't believe me check the instance for yourself, you'll see it dominated with bigoted right wing posts and spam communities."

Edit: So many commenters think this is about political opinions or disagreement. It's not. If I said "Mixing bleach and ammonia is good for you" I bet some of you would call that a political disagreement.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never said they're a harmless novelty to me. I don't particularly expect to interact with these people but if I do I promise it won't be in support of their hate, or even passive of it.

"Let's just give them free reign and leave the people they're trying to bully into suicide block them" sounds pretty passive to me.

Like people have said, you can block things for yourself.

Something people have been able to do on every platform the far-right have built a little rat nest on.

Looking at the last 5 years, do you feel that strategy has been effective?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, you're being true to you name, but I guess I'd question if your approach has been effective. We could make a walled garden, but that's just [insert big platform] again and we all know where that goes.

"But hate is different!" well yeah it is, but walled garden is bad and semi-walled garden has proved unstable. By federating we've accepted that people will use the fediverse for whatever; defederating from something as a political tool effects only people on this small instance with highly mobile users such as myself, which is useless. If it was a bigger instance maybe you would be right.

Of course, I'm basically a guest here, so I have to temper my opinions even on that, and you're not even on this instance. It seems like there's some free speech absolutists here so maybe I'm wasting my breath.

Edit: And I think federation is still different from 4chan or similar. It's not open, maybe it's a movable-wall garden. I'd gladly wall off these people but I paradoxically don't want to be walled off from them, and an SDF defederation fails on both counts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You aren't even a user of SDF Lemmy. So why are you spamming everyone here with your irrelevant opinions?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you'll hate the work exploding-heads do then. Better defederate.