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I've also seen concerns about privacy and politics. It'd be great if you addressed that, too. I'd love to send you an upvote but I deleted all my accounts. ๐
I did address the politics, lemmy is open sourced and the politics aren't injected in the code, and if you can't deal with the politics, go to kbin. It'll still be federated, so, I don't care really, but I can't imagine leaving lemmy because of what the devs do in their free time.
Privacy is non-existent on reddit anyway, just because lemmy is imperfect there doesn't mean it's any worse than reddit, and this is a public forum, there's no privacy anyway.
I didn't see those. My bad!
Completely agree. Just look at reddit's TOS. They own your data. Unfortunately, it still doesn't stop people from raising ut as if reddit is a bastion of privacy and security.
Would you still hold this opinion if the Lemmy devs were outright fascists?
Yes, the code has nothing to do with anything.
They are red fascists to me.
There always the defederation option. There was no exodus from mastodon when fashy-twitter (gab) started using a fork as their backend. Everyone just blocked them. At least thats my understanding.
I'm mostly confused by a lot of the privacy talk, personally. If you post something on a public forum there practically cannot be a guarantee of deletion.
My concerns with privacy are abusive trackers scraping data like whati I'm personally looking at, how long I look at posts, what times of day and background ad tracking that for far beyond even that.
Sure, people can use the things I've consented to posting online to do market research or whatever. But that's not something that can be practically stopped without end to ende encryption and then that's just... A matrix? To me it feels like a lot of the privacy complaints have revolved around wanting a social media to do something entirely removed from what a public facing social media even is at a core level.
I'm interested to hear peoples thoughts on improving the privacy, but I really do think there is a lot going into this expectation of deletion that isn't very practical when there are way more pressing issues about privacy violations.
edit: an analogy, if I publish a book, and later decide I want to fully retract the book, in within my rights to request that. But there is no practical reason for me to expect everyone to follow through, or that my publisher be required to hunt down every last copy and destroy them. On the other hand, I'm a lot more concerned about someone spying on my every move while I'm writing the book, doing research, and discussing it privately. Lemmy, to my knowledge, doesn't do the latter, but does act as a publisher letting people know they should destroy the book.
The Devs mentioned the privacy issues here
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2977
As for politics, I think that just goes to show have powerful Lemmy is. The code is open source and able to be self hosted outside of the developers control if need be. It truly doesn't matter what the developers or really anyone's persons political beliefs are. If something goes to crap just move to another instance or host your own where you create your own rules.