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I have heard some respectable communities, namely r/AskHistorians, express hesitance at coming to Lemmy in part over fears of appearing biased due to the overt political stance of Lemmy's creators. In other words, it's hard to be a neutral body in affiliation with anything that has an overt political stance.
I wonder what the devs of Lemmy think of this hesitance. Is it unreasonable and itself biased? Or do you see any potential for finding a way to facilitate a platform that would allow for a more neutral space?
They can run their own lemmy server, they don't even need to federate with any dev run servers.
Also if you think something isn't political, you haven't examined it closely.
This is a powerful truth. Some of the most critical actors in maintaining the status quo are the mass of people who are convinced it is the neutral, natural way of the world and not informed by politics at all.
If anyone considers themselves a historian and thinks anything is unbiased, their experience and insight will be dubious at best. Understanding that everyone has a distinct worldview and therefore bias is literally high-school history class, years before History 101. Do they think reddit.com, or any reddit alternative forthat matter, is unbiased or neutral??
Not only is it irrelevant in context (FOSS, forkable, the devs in question only moderate this single instance), it's especially unreasonable coming from /r/AskHistorians. They of all people should be able to understand bias, context and causation.
Yeah this. No association is implied just by using open source software. You don't have to agree with Richard Stallman to use GNU utils, nor linus torvalds to use linux, it doesn't make you suspect politically, it's just software.
If you don't wanna be associated with communists then don't use a communist instance (hexbear, lemmygrad), that's fine. even if they don't make their own instance they can pick and choose their associations. Frankly, being associated with reddit is far worse than being associated with commies.
They're classic Moralintern lol
You don't know anything about r/AH do you?
What are you talking about? It is BY FAR the subreddit with the most consistently throughly cited responses. Comments get removed even just for not having sources.
You are not talking about the same subreddit, please check yourself. Or maybe provide some citations of your own if you're going to say that content of that caliber is "unresearched". I mean who the heck are you??
They can definitely run their own server, and we'd even help them get set up. There's no such thing as a neutral space, but people can set up an instance if they'd like to moderate / control it how they see fit.
Doesn't the federation part fix that? Couldn't they host their own server or be on a more neutral instance? or am I missing the point?
They could, if they cared to research that much, which many don't seem to want to do.
What the hell? This is open source. The minute the devs do something to the product that people don't like, a bazillion forks will appear. While they are the developers of Lemmy, the code isn't theirs, it's everyone's.
Example: audacity
No idea about it, do you have a short summary?
Very basic summary: when they changed their privacy policy to include telemetry, everyone forked it.
This is antithetical to the decentralised web. The primary feature is that there's no centralised control. Create your own askhistorians instance.
Maybe these so-called historians just need to brush up on the history of all hitherto existing society.
Uh huh........yeah sure.........they're worried about lemmy..........right.......
Who is u/audax ?
Why don’t they join Kbin instead if that’s the case?