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CAFE by GE for those who are wondering.

We are renovating our house including all new appliances. I have told my partner to make sure we get non smart appliances. This is why.

Yes I can setup a VLAN for it to be on but that's not the point.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It's only a matter of time before corporate WANs like Amazon sidewalk and/or the ever decreasing cost of cellular modems and IOT contracts mean they won't even ask anymore.

In the mean time, these things are usually programmed with minimal effort. I have to wonder if there's an actual unlock process or if giving it a completely isolated subnet would satisfy the check.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s only a matter of time before corporate WANs like Amazon sidewalk and/or the ever decreasing cost of cellular modems and IOT contracts mean they won’t even ask anymore.

Then it's time to heat up the soldering iron and disable the wireless connectivity in hardware.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

which is great until you realize that if it cant connect to a server somewhere to download the latest Ad manifest it crashes the OvenOS and now your warranty is void AND you can't bake a cake.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In that case it would be unusable in any remote area without cell service too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

doesn't seem to have stopped them from locking functionality that does not require an internet conneciton behind an internet connection, so i don't see why they would care.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At least an integrated modem wouldn't set my local network at risk. They might still collect sensible data with microphones, cameras and share usage profiles etc. But from my perspective that's at least technically decoupled from other devices.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

that's at least technically decoupled from other devices.

Not if these appliances come with Mesh networking capabilities (something commonly found on IoT devices). Technologies such as Mesh allows devices to connect between them, essentially forming a "mesh" of interconnected devices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's a valid point indeed.