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This guy's dad is the former VP of a multibillion dollar Turkish conglomerate, as well as the secretary of a government department. Mom and Dad were able to fly to their other home in NJ to give birth so he'd get US citizenship. His uncle is the founder and owner of TYT Media and gave him his media career. He went to Rutgers. He lives in a multimillion dollar mansion in the Hollywood Hills. This is by definition not the kind of person who can be a voice of the People. Saying "I recognize my privilege" over and over, while living his lifestyle, doesn't negate his privilege and complete lack of real-life experience outside of the curated garden of the wealthy. He gets paid obscene amounts of cash to sit in his bedroom and word-vomit for 9 hours a day. Why are his unending opinions taken so seriously? He gives me strong controlled opposition vibes.

Edit: Thank you all for this discussion. I learned a lot.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

As a political force in the United States there is no left. The left is structurally shut out of power.

If you don't think the right has message board arguments about what flavor of right wing is better, calling eachother RINO, saying that SS style Nazi guys should be Deus Vult style Nazi guys, or how frens and groypers are cringe or how parroting Mitch McConnell makes someone dumb you just haven't talked to or seen right wingers talk to each other.

Comparing apples and oranges is the most common thing that happens when this kind of shit pops off because it helps diffuse the actual conversations we could have. You see it all in this thread about how for some people Hasan is a large portion of "the left" simply because he's popular and that's all they know. These people don't have real world experience, they get their ideas from online. They're no different than Kamala Redditors who thought that everyone was going to vote for Kamala because they were too online and instead there was a red wave.

The reality of these types of conversations is that most online leftists don't have the theoretical backing to grapple with these types of questions and when the accusations are levied against a popular leftist that makes money off of their popularity it's in their self interest to shut that shit down in any way possible and that's what you end up seeing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was speaking generally, Iโ€™m not American so things are different to me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're from the UK the situation is the same. The entire system came down on Corbyn, but there are very few places in the world right now where there are real leftist politics happening.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, ok. Thank you. Putting it like that makes it easier to picture.