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USB-C confirmed for the iPhone 15 in new leaked images - Macworld (www.macworld.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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We’ve known that the iPhone is switching to USB-C for a while now, but there was always a possibility that Apple would stick with Lightning for one more year. Based on the latest leaked images, however, Apple is all-in on USB-C for the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro models, with USB-C parts for the iPhone 15, iPhone 15 Plus, and iPhone 15 Pro Max all shown in a leaked image by X user fix Apple.

With the switch to USB-C, nearly all of Apple’s devices will have adopted the new standard, with only AirPods, Mac accessories, and the iPhone SE remaining aside from older iPhones and the 9th-gen iPad.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the regulation isn't just usb-c, it's usb-c and power delivery. Apple can't magically escape both of them with a "made for apple" cable. It must accept all third party cable and charger.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Of course they can:

USB -PD support at limited speeds.

A proprietary Apple chip enables higher speeds, either using USB-PD still or another proprietary charging protocol.

They can just have both

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As I commented above, the regulation clearly states "any additional charging protocol allows for the full functionality of PD.. irrespective of the charging device used."

So they can't have both unless they split EU & RoW devices.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I hadn’t heard this. Good on the EU not letting them squirrel out of this (hopefully)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The question is more about "how much" of PD they support right? Like PD has standards for charging at higher or lower currents.

My understanding of the current-gen MacBook Pro is that they support some kind of "fast charging", but only if you use their MagSafe port. You can still charge on the USB-C ports, but not as fast as you could with MagSafe. I'm not sure if that's a violation of the regulations, or if PD simply doesn't have support for the amount of power they're pushing through the MagSafe.

But I think the point is that they'll continue to look for ways to offer a better experience with their proprietary stuff, even if they're forced to support a standard in addition.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Interestingly all Apple silicon Macs support fast-charging via USB C. The 16-inch can only do 140W fast-charging via MagSafe, but that makes sense since ports that support charging speeds >100W are fairly new

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Laptops are being gradually added to the list of devices within scope of this change. It only counts for any new device being sold on the market after the changes take effect.

The clause only makes sure that chargers do not limit, when connected to competitors devices. The regulation is coming from an e-waste perspective, which the EU has made it clear that it is not interested in entertaining or letting companies push them around.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

No:

In so far as they are capable of being recharged via wired charging at voltages higher than 5 volts, currents higher than 3 amperes or powers higher than 15 watts, the categories or classes of radio equipment referred to in point 1 letters a) to m) shall:

(a) incorporate the USB Power Delivery, as described in the standard EN IEC 62680-1- 2:2021 ‘Universal serial bus interfaces for data and power - Part 1-2: Common components - USB Power Delivery specification’;

(b) ensure that any additional charging protocol allows the full functionality of the USB Power Delivery referred to in point (a), irrespective of the charging device used.

https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-10713-2022-INIT/x/pdf

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The regulation actually enforces that PD is implemented if high speed charging is available and that it can’t be limited in speed compared to any other charging protocol that’s also available on the device, irrespective of the charging device used.

We don’t need to guess if we can just read the regulation: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32022L2380&qid=1691523718368.