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~~It was a McDonald's customer who turned him in.~~ (Edit: the article I read has been updated)
But I can't help but find the whole thing really suspicious. In his possession they found a gun, silencer, and three-page hand written manifesto.
Who handwrites an essay before going out to kill someone? That just feels hard to believe.
The pictures of Mangione don't even match the other pictures they've put out of the suspect. Dude's brow line is completely different.
I low key have been wondering since the press conference last night if they used facial recognition software to find him.
They said he had multiple fake IDs on him. I find it crazy that he took so many precautions in New York and was just walking around with all that in his pockets.
Right? This guy they picked up had a ghost gun, silencer, and manifesto on him despite all the other careful planning? I mean, I know criminals very often fuck up in very stupid ways but who is dumb enough to use a ghost gun, but not dispose of it after using it for a crime? And also walk around with basically an admission of guilt? Something is fishy.
The NYPD will walk into his interrogation room and conveniently walk out with an admission of guilt that they totally didn't use "enhanced interrogation techniques" to get.
Yeah, they need a fall guy to dissuade copycats, so they're going to frame the first close match they find.
If it was him, and the NYPD caught him, he must've wanted to get caught. With all the talk of jury nullification maybe he thought it was the best option...
They are deff running serious fake news op on pinning it on this guy...
But it still doesn't make sense to me. Do all of that just to be picked at fastslop after cashier snitches on you?
I still think it's him. To me it looked similar.
Also he had the same fake ID he used to check into the hostel? What the heck is this guy doing? While it seemed likely he would be caught eventually, disposing of the ID, his guns, the manifesto, and staying in his basement for a while would be by far the best course of action, not going to a McDonalds and eating it inside
He probably also had some copies of The Sims on him
This is the US, where people dont follow instructions like robots. He was actually found carrying three EA Game Cards.
Ahh. It's in the game.
I understood that reference
I do not 😞
Russia Bizarrely Includes Sims 3 Among Evidence of ‘Staged’ Assassination Plot
Signature unclear.
He was America's Most On TV Human for the last week. I'm not shocked someone recognized him. And its not like he was picked off a bus in Manhattan at random. The guy was traced all the way to Pennsylvania.
He probably could have gotten away if he'd laid low for another week or two. But this absolutely sounds like a guy with some serious mental health issues who was not thinking ten steps ahead as everyone in the fandom wanted to believe. He was just some angry 20-year-old doing a more newsworthy version of a school shooting, not The Leftist Jackal plotting elaborate Mission Impossible style assassinations.
The same kind of person who signs their bullet casings.
Carrying all of the evidence related to the crime several days later is very out of character with the careful preparation and execution of the crime itself, and a little too convenient for an open/shut case. The ruling class absolutely needs to crush someone very publicly right now out of fear of copycats.
I personally think he wanted to be caught on purpose.
He wasn't traced there though? They just found a guy that conveniently had all that shit on him like come on
He was traced through the use of his fake ID and through security camera footage along the route he traveled. There were also plenty of sightings (some less reliable than others) that were coming into the police nationally. The tip off in Altoona was almost certainly not the only one made. He was observed on a cab security camera. He was sighted at a bus depot. And there were a few other data points police alluded to that weren't made public. That rapidly narrowed down where he could have gone to next.
Not enough people wearing a mask in New York or Pennsylvania that it didn't make him stand out. That, and he was tall, and the upper part of his face was all over the news for days straight.
That he had all his shit on him was unfortunate. But even if he'd dumped it, if it was on an observed route it would have just been one more data point for police to follow. Guy fought the law and the law won.
I think he wanted to be caught.
Agree
It's the handwritten bit that I find hardest to believe, though. The guy studied AI at university and was involved in Game Design classes. He was a tech guy. Nobody who's that intimate with computers would choose to convey their message across three hand-written pages. It just seems really odd.
Seems like a guy with a background in tech and a significant concern over his privacy would be exactly the kind of person to keep his heretical most views on paper rather than online. The guy had basically dropped off the web for months prior to the assassination.
Someone in IT would be intimately familiar with why you would want something like a manifesto to be offline.
Being an IT guy makes you not use real pens or paper? The amount of cope for this guy is unreal. That's just stupid.
Handwriting is more intimate and allows for better expression through the script. For something so personal, it sounds perfect. I love handwriting, do it regularly and I've been intimate with computers more than once ;)
As an IT guy: I love and hate handwriting things. I get the point about intimacy but especially for longer texts expressing many connected thoughts I would never do it by hand. Being able to edit text, switch around blocks of text etc etc is so ingrained in me that doing this by hand frustrates me greatly.
Yeah, I didn't like taking handwritten notes (until I got an e-ink tablet) during lectures because of that.
Though as I started doing audits I got better at writing with proper spacing and anticipating where something is missing, so it gets better.
I prefer hand written notes for all my tickets and tasks I need to do...physically writing it helps memory retention way better then reading stuff on a screen.
Traced to Pennsylvania? You got a source for that? This is not the cops I've ever met.
I feel like he could be on TV but the majority of the public puts that in the back of their mind and not something they are looking out for. I really think it's this guy and he had a message from his now deleted YouTube videos that were supposed to be released after he was caught. We will never know unless he shares more in court what is going on. The only lead I have seen is his review of Teds book, and how much it spoke of someone fed up with the system and making a point that "those who don't stand up to commit violence are cowards or the accused" or among those lines.
You don't need the majority to recognize him. Your just need a random distribution over a wide area.
"Everything to support the claim is made up" is going to be the rallying cry of an increasingly fringe group over time
You're not shocked someone saw someone and immediately recognized him as the hooded figure on the TV? "Oh yeah, I recognize those eyebrows, I'm going to call the police immediately," doesn't sound unusual to you?
The rest of y'all really not have a few manifestos just laying around?
The kind of person who writes a message on the bullet casing (and fully expects to get caught).
Yeah beyond reasonable id agree lol
You might say that there is reasonable doubt it's the same guy