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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You miss a very pertinent point that they must correct the record at the earliest possible time. The ministerial code is also under the discretion of the PM of the day, so will only be put to a committee for discussion if he deems it necessary. This falls short when the PM himself is habitually breaking the code. Sunak as well as his ministers are again following suite by making up figures for the dispatch box, and failing to correct the record when it is pointed out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's all good and everything. But when would they correct the record? Could they continue to delay by saying "well at the time I said what I said because I believed it to be the truth!".

That's basically what BoJo said for two years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And Johnson lost out at the first actual investigation. As for when, they are government in control of parliamentary time. They can come back when ever they feel it is needed. The only provision would be the set hours parliament sits.

The problem with Johnson was that it was never allowed to go beyond the verbal criticism phase. He was questioned many times in PMQs regarding his factual statements, and because he was in control of the next part of the process, it never went further than that. Moreso he had the support of the majority of MPs to back him up. Once those MPs realised that this was costing them more votes than they could possibly gain from Johnson, they marked his card. Party politics have always superseded due process when it comes to parliamentary behaviour. The control behind the adjudication needs talking away from the culprits committing the crime.

There has never been anything so egregious in parliament in the way the Tories currently behave though. They are showing little sign of wanting to change back. They are behaving like smug school kids who have used the legal system to get one over on their teachers. It will bite them later on. What they have done will be recorded as a pertinent event to learn from in history. Much like the autopsy that the US will inevitably go through after the Trump trials. That is provided he does not defeat the litigation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The control behind the adjudication needs talking away from the culprits committing the crime

Fully agree 💯