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[–] [email protected] 180 points 6 days ago (37 children)

Daytime energy is soon going to be free in much of the world. The advances in green tech, especially solar and batteries, are real. Much faster progress than even the optimists were predicting a decade ago. The revolution is reaching a tipping point where it becomes self-sustaining and requires no state subsidies. I am not a tech utopian, and this alone will not save us. But there's no denying it's good news. It's all happening far too late but it does look like humans are going to kick their fossil habit after all.

Inconvenient footnote: thank China.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago (13 children)

It's gotten so good that China might be restricting output to keep the prices high...

(their onshore wind, and pumped hydro storage, are also great success stories, as is the EV industry there)

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Indeed. China is such a paradox. An absolute anathema in terms of culture and politics. It's almost impossible for us Westerners to grasp how a people could accept that level of authoritarianism, how they could value their personal freedom so little. And yet, and yet. Without China we would be royally screwed. They are pulling the weight of the green transition basically alone. So personally I've decided to hold off on China-bashing for now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Tiananmen Square was not that long ago. There are lots of living people who would have seen their fellow students get crushed by tanks and rinsed down a drain.

That will keep a generation and their children quiet. Their children have also now seen how risings are punished via Hong Kong.

I don’t think it’s even possible to imagine what you would do having seen your government enact that kind of violence on your peers. So I certainly don’t judge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

In a way it's even scarier than that. Most younger Chinese do not even know those things happened. I can confirm this incredible fact from personal experience. At this point "Tiananmen Square 1989" has more meaning to the average educated Westerner than it does over there. It has been scrubbed from history.

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