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What is your opinion of Joseph Stalin? (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I believe in socialism, but I feel Stalin shouldn't be idolised due to things like the Gulag.

I would like more people to become socialist, but I feel not condemning Stalin doesn't help the cause.

I've tried to have a constructieve conversation about this, but I basically get angry comments calling me stupid for believing he did atrocious things.

That's not how you win someone over.

I struggle to believe the Gulag etc. Never happened, and if it happened I firmly believe Stalin should be condemned.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe next life then. Appreciate your efforts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Definitely next life. Remember that the Europeans built their cultures for a few thousand years before setting sail to expand through conquest. That was about 550 years ago. If a life time is 100 years, then it took five and a half lifetimes to get here via global conquest. It will take multiple lifetimes to reverse this and several more to reverse it permanently.

This is the project we're all here for. You and me and all our comrades.

The USSR was the first attempt. It was an experiment. We have a ton to learn from it. China, Korea, Vietnam, and Laos are other experiments. We have a lot to learn from them and they all learn from each other and they all learn from the USSR experiment. The number of capitalist experiments is easily a hundred and they've been in operating for a couple centuries. The number of communist experiments is less than 10 and none have made it to a century yet.

We are at the middle of the beginning of the process.