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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So we should vote for the more evil?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

No, you should vote for a different lesser evil that they prefer even though it will be even less effective

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

No, you should band together and grind the system that only presents evil options to a halt.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 28 minutes ago

Very altruistic and yet completely unrealistic.

Be real.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That is something you do outside of electoral politics. You will not achieve that by not voting for the lesser evil.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Voting for the lesser evil can enable this strategy to be more effective. Is it easier to organize against the system in the streets today or in a future where the military enforces the president's whims via emergency powers? I think the answer is fairly obvious.

Lesser evil voting is a rational response to a broken system, but it also isn't mutually exclusive with fighting against that system in other ways. And I believe it's even synergistic in many cases.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

Fuck no. You don't get to pull out "less effective" within a day of Pelosi shuffling a 74 year old cancer patient into the most critical committee position for fighting Trump. That's exactly the effectiveness you get with Democratic establishment habitual losers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

When people have limited choices to vote on, voting for a or b does not make them like a or b.

It just means it’s a “boiling the frog situation” when gradually changing the goalposts makes people not notice the real issues.

The average American really has not changed that much from the past generations, but the candidates that are allowed to run in either party have drifted rightward.

If I want to vote for green, and I can choose only on a greyscale, my interpretation of which shade of gray might be closest to green might be a personal choice, highly disputed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

Yes, what shade of grey is closest to green is unclear, but there are only two shades of grey that can win. I'd be ecstatic about dumping my shade of grey if anybody could explain how it would bring us closer to green.