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Hello! So two things:

  1. I would like to have a discussion about the UHC CEO killing and if it is at all any different than the ~45 murders a day in the USA...(other than the obvious "he was rich" one). -Typical Christmas family get together brought this up as a topic and was curious about the different perspectives. Argument made by others was "this sets a bad precedent", and the response was "how is this any different than someone getting murdered for literally any reason". Hate, lust, money, your car..whatever the motivation, how is this any different?

  2. Is there a better location to post said discussion topic?

I mostly lurk Lemmy, so not really sure how to find the correct communities for said topic.

Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think the issue I've been grappling with is, where do we draw the line as to what is an 'acceptable' murder? Like what if another Healthcare CEO is killed, but they're violently knifed to death? Are we still celebrating then? What if they're shot, but raped first? Are we still printing t-shirts? What if they're shot, but so is their family? What if innocent passers by also get caught in the cross fire? Do we still cheer for them? What level of mental gymnastics do we have to do to justify something as 'justice' vs just plain old 'murder?' Where does this take us? Where does that reasoning end?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Its a classic conundrum and one you have to decide for yourself based on your own morals. I tend to take a ends justify means approach to things but that has been critiqued extensively by people far smarter than I.

These ceos are responsible for killing thousands of people and will kill thousands more in the future. The maths would argue that any action that reduces harm in the future is justified. That then changes ur question into one of what do u value more? Thousands of people dying preventable deaths due to corporate greed or another healthcare ceo being violently stabbed to death after being raped and their family shot and innocent bystanders getting shot?

There is no right answer. All u can do is decide for yourself in a manner u believe is congruent with ur personal morality.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Knifed to death is still good. The others are two-parters and should generally be avoided if possible.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You wouldn't be advocating for having people killed if it was your own friends.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't be friends with a major healthcare CEO.