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This is going to be fun watching over the next four years. LOL. You just gotta laugh.

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It's obvious why they're suddenly obsessed with Raw Milk. It's the same reason they were suddenly Anti-Vax, anti-Mask, and anti-plague-control.

Democrats said a thing, Republicans immediately reply with the opposite.

Democrats said Vaccines prevent disease, Republicans declared vaccines are poison. Democrats said wearing a mask can reduce the transmission of airborne pathogens, Republicans said masks will kill you and are illegal now. Democrats said "Don't drink raw milk, it can transmit deadly diseases." Republicans declare "You can take the raw milk from my cold dead hands."

I honestly expect that if Democrats released a PSA against jumping off cliffs onto jagged rocks, because the fall could be dangerous, Republicans would immediately start taking picture standing on the edges of cliffs with the caption of "Don't tell me what to do."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

You forgot the one about gas stoves in homes.

To be fair, there are so many examples of this lately, it's impossible to keep track of them all.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

I said it a million times, if Obama simply came out in favor of lowering the minimum wage then we'd all have six figure salaries.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Humans are famously garbage at comprehending statistics, and most Darwin Award winning conservative behaviors are born of it.

Take any mundane thing that was part of a status quo of a previous era in recent memory. Anything at all. Research comes out suggesting that thing has a small, but non-negligible risk to be quite harmful. So we collectively shift to a new behavior that tries to eliminate the risk. A shift that, in most sane and civil peoples' opinions, is so unobtrusively small that any theoretical benefit we're trading away is probably well worth the risk elimination.

But oh, a certain group of people will bitch and moan and scream and piss all over themselves in rage over how you dared to take away something so integral to their culture and lifestyle! The risk aversion is never worth the vain fringe benefit of whatever perceived quality was lost because the risk is completely invisible until it actually hits them personally.

Milk used to taste so great! God's gift to the world! Then we all started boiling it and now it tastes worse! And for what? Because a couple of weak-bodied cosmic lottery losers were getting a few tummy aches? The vast majority of us are all suffering over nothing! Life was so much better when we weren't all scared of things that won't happen! We did it for millennia and we turned out just fine!

Then you point out all the people actually getting hospitalized from pathogens in raw milk, the very thing we were trying to avoid in the first place, and if they even believe you at all they simply consider it an acceptable price to pay. Better to live in a rich and interesting society where you're free to risk harming yourself and others than a milquetoast one where imperceptible threats have been preemptively eliminated at great cost.

And then they turn around and work to ban books that mention trans people or ban porn websites to save the children or some other dumb shit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah back in the 2000s my permaculture/crunchy granola/woo woo/socially conservative/Catholic friend liked raw milk because of the health benefits, live cultures, etc., and believed that it was worth the risk that someone, somewhere, might get sick. But he'd be ok though because he knew and trusted His Farm.

I didn't agree with him but I was tempted.

Imo if something can't be regulated to within acceptable risk, it's probably too dangerous.

That's why Alex Honnold can go free solo a cliff because he's only risking himself and his family's future without him, but selling raw milk puts a lot more people at risk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I would. My Dad grew up on a dairy farm and drank milk out of the cow that morning - if I see upon a farm, I’d certainly try it

Just like on a veggie farm (IPM, no pesticides) I tried carrots out of the ground, flowers off the stem, berries off the bush. It’s a really neat experience.

However I’d never make a habit out of it, nor try it when it’s not absolute fresh and I knew what was on it. The odds are ok if you do it once under known conditions, but like any other gambling, the house always wins

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine being so vapid that the extent of your understanding of the world boils down to just being contrarian.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's much easier than thinking.

Don't get involved with people who enthusiastically shit on others' ideas, while having none of their own. Can't count how many times I've countered a complaint with "Ok, what would you do?" only to be met with those empty eyes that tell you there's nothing happening behind them.

Some people just think conversation is defined as bitching.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I feel like most of the time they don't even know the actual implications of what they're saying, but are simply repeating the thing that they heard on the radio or Fox News. All they know is that the Democrats don't like whatever it is, and that's all that matters to them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, we could at least try releasing that PSA.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Maybe take baby steps first, like "you should never cross a street with heavy traffic", "looking down the barrel of your gun is too dangerous" and "eating poop is nasty"