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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (7 children)

The second life/metaverse/virtual reality concept will never be widely accepted by the majority of the population because it just isn't what the vast majority of people want. They want communication methods that compliment their real world lives.

Yes, it will probably be more popular at some point than it has been so far if they can pull off affordable ultra realism, but the escapism of virtual worlds appeals to a relatively small portion of the population. Not to mention that a lot of people have a limited amount of free time, and even if it was extremely popular at first, the novelty would wear off fairly quickly for most people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

Gaming is an absolutely massive economic sector, driven by the escapism of virtual worlds. The functional kernel of the metaverse is a universal game lobby, a place for people to congregate while they navigate between the games they play together.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

I think you're right about affordability.

There's a subset of the population who will pursue VR for gaming et cetera, but it's a limited subset. While the same hardware or tech might be able to be used for casual AR / VR helpful type things like meetings or informational things those applications just aren't beneficial enough to make it worth the cost of the hardware.

If there was more content, more useful applications, and the cost was negligible, then sure it will take off.

In my 20s I would've been interested in VR for gaming and would've been excited about the potential applications of AR. Now in my 40s it's clear that tech doesn't bring me joy, and I'd like to diminish it's role in my life. As in, I want tech to improve my well being and quality of life rather than consume my time and limit my experience of life.

20 years from now, I can imagine myself as a reluctant late-adopter of AR. I just absolutely will not tolerate ads in this regard. I'd rather forage for twigs and berries in the wilderness than allow adverts to be injected into my experience of realiity.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A big problem with virtual worlds is that it doesn’t really take that long to get to the “end.” The end of the landscape, the end of the mechanics, the end of the economy, whatever. Then you’re stuck waiting for DLC, and that runs out in short order, too.

In reality, even if you stay in one place your whole life, you know there’s more to see; or are the wealthiest person in the world, there’s still more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

I had assumed the metaverse was more about augmented reality than an alternate reality. I don't really know anything about it though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

will never be widely accepted by the majority of the populatioj because it just isn’t what the vast majority of people want. They want communication methods that compliment their real world lives

I don't think that's strictly true, but I do think it would require their real world lives to get shockingly worse to increase the appeal of living in a "better" world.

This is usually how you see these kind of things presented in fiction: everyone uses a "metaverse", but it requires a full on completely society destroying dystopia to also exist to make it sufficiently appealing.

I'd put money on the next round of VR worlds getting a lot more buy-in since you've got a generation of kids growing up that are already living mostly online, and a species that seems hell-bent on diving in to a nice authoritarian dystopia, so uh, the next 20 years will probably be real interesting,

[–] shortwavesurfer 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think what we will get out of all this virtual reality research is good augmented reality devices because being able to look at something and pull up information on that thing or instructions on how to use it, etc. would be damn useful. I think I've heard of companies using AR and VR for training purposes, like how to work machines in a factory, etc. before you actually start using them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I see people buying $300 AR glasses as a portable monitor to watch porn comfortably while in bed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Remote medical procedures, remote military weapons, remote repair of datellites, etc. will all benefit as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

I think all of those applications will, or already have, develop independently of something like Facebook metaverse. If anything meta is taking those useful applications and trying to turn it into a household product that nobody needs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Do any of these applications really require AR / VR though?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Require? No.

Likely to be improved by more spacial awareness? Yes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The second life/metaverse/ virtual reality concept will never be widely accepted by the majority of the populatioj because it just isn’t what the vast majority of people want. They want communication methods that compliment their real world lives.

It's the same reason that urbanization collapses every time it gets out of hand, as it did in Babylon and Rome before us. The majority of the population doesn't even WANT to live in an artificial environment, no matter how hard those who wield power attempt to push it on everyone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The massive popularity of Ready Player One, which was a mostly bland and bad story besides having a Metaverse in it, might imply otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

I don't think people are yearning for a dystopian future.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The popularity in the fictional setting, based on speculation?

The popularity of the book/move, which is a short period of escapism not at all comparable to virtual reality?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The popularity of the book/movie incorporating a classic concept of cyberpunk, yes.

We've been dreaming of a Metaverse just about since we've had internet. Only, nobody's made one that's worth a damn in the real world yet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Dude it's a book.

"Gladiators would be popular because there's this movie called Gladiator that everyone loves and that has heaps of Gladiators."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Gladiator was a movie because historically we've had heaps of gladiators and they were popular public entertainment.